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Commander the great war has been released and nobody gave a shit.

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Raghar, Nov 16, 2012.

  1. Raghar Arcane

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    So a commander the great war has been released. What are your opinions on that?
    I still didn't seen a battlefront game pirated, thus I can't make a comparison.
     
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  2. Erzherzog Magister

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    Anything that lets me shit on Italy as Austria is worth a look, though I checked reviews of the developers past games and I'm highly hesitant.
     
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  3. GreatPretender Educated

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    looks like a rehash of old commanders and panzer general in ww1.
     
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  4. Commissar Draco KKKodex WCDS Commissar Patron

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    If someone wants to play PG in WWI then this is game for him; game plays as Panzer Corps does with AI cheating a lot at rolls, the added Strategic level and return of front lines instead of isolated strongpoints makes its even more like PG 1 with Only Big difference being added Research and Diplomacy. Can't wait to crush puny Germans and Austrians beneath my might Russian steam roller. :smug:
     
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    This looks like a very good game. My problem is that for over 4 years I am playing mostly AGE titles ( like Revolution under Siege which is very close to WW1 ) and find it increasingly hard to get back to more simplistic games.
     
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  6. MetalCraze Arcane

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    I can't believe we are still getting Panzer General clones in 2012. Devs should start making wargames with modern standards and they can't even get out of early 90s.
     
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    holy shit :lol:
     
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  8. Myrddraal Novice

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    Hi all,

    I'm one of the devs from the Lordz Games Studio.

    It's quite a different game, from Panzer General, don't judge based on the shape of the tiles ;). The game is grand strategy. The map stretches from the USA to the Urals, from Finland to Arabia. A turn represents two weeks, and a hex an area of 20km.

    Other than the scale, the style of play is also very different from Panzer General. The Panzer General gameplay style really really wouldn't work with the WWI setting.

    I can categorically state the the AI does not cheat on rolls. Not on any of the difficulty levels. If you play against the AI in 'Privileged' mode, the AI will get some temporary production boosts, but never any combat bonuses that the player doesn't get.

    If you want a good idea of how the game plays out, the best way is probably to have a read of some of the player's AARs, I've put some links below:

    http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3214219
    http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=38749
    http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3213033
    http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=38894
     
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  9. kris Arcane

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    not sure if this follows the panzer general formula, but that formula was made for regional maps, not all of europe. it don't fit very well.
     
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  10. Commissar Draco KKKodex WCDS Commissar Patron

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    40 Dorra is beacoup money... but will think about buying this for Christmas as my 8 years son loves to play Panzer Korps, is there official demo somewhere?
     
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    That is the problem I have with all these global-scale games. Like Strategic Command, Pride of Nations, etc.

    I just don't care it there are hexes for North Antarctica and South Sahara, and at the same time 10 million men fight over the same 5 hexes in France. Same for the rules, like artillery support. It just never feels right, and I am afraid it will be no different here.

    But the new engine looks like a major improvement over the old one, perhaps if there is a demo or something ...
     
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  12. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane In My Safe Space

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    No demo? No shits were given quite rightfully.
     
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  13. Deakul Savant

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    Not even in 3D, what is this casual shit?
     
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  14. GreatPretender Educated

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    :killit:
     
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    Myrddraal: What are your plans concerning a demo?
     
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  16. Raghar Arcane

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    They can't do that, they are just offering bounty of 1000 pounds on some person on internet (probably 8-14 years old, or homeless). I wonder where they get these money from, I always when I did game development rather released stuff for free than earned money.
     
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  17. knightley Educated

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    Iirc, Panzer General did have a demo, so maybe not a bad idea. Since somebody said the screenshot did not do the game justice.
     
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    Panzer Corps has a demo, too ;)
     
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  19. oscar Tacticular Staff

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    Hm, any reviews? Might buy this.
     
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  20. Myrddraal Novice

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    Some reviews:

    7idgaming give it 84%. This one is in German (translation of the 'Bottom Line' below):
    http://7idgaming.de/content.php?182-Slitherine-Commander-The-Great-War-REVIEW



    Strategy Prime gives it 4/5 stars:
    http://www.strategyprime.net/commander-the-great-war-review/

    And this from Rock Paper Shotgun. Not a review, more of a blog post, but still a good insight into the game:
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/23/the-flare-path-a-hextasy-of-fumbling/


    If you want to read some user reviews, I would recommend the AARs I posted earlier, and have a browse of the comments from people who have bought the game on those two sites (matrix & slitherine).
     
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  21. Raghar Arcane

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    You'd need a pirate release to be able to properly test the game. Demo will not tell you anything about late phases and about advanced tactics.
    As one of reviewers said:
    Which is the main problem with the game. It's goal was just a normal game - strategy, not much more. The various game mechanisms were not researched from real situation and then approximated. They used Ad hoc solutions, which occasionally feels wrong.

    Also WWI game without diplomacy... Either it's detailed with juicy research and allows a lot of a historical situations, like keeping US out of war, or...
     
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  22. Commissar Draco KKKodex WCDS Commissar Patron

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    40 Dollars is a lot for PG like Game, especially before the Christmas, will wait till some codexers extend demo purchase this game and write the review. Well done events like arresting Lenin at the Finish border would lead to interesting gameplay.
     
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  23. kris Arcane

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    From their review:

    Uh, what? What genre are they talking about? Hexagonal turn-based strategy IS a genre, yet a review site called "strategy prime" say this. I am fully bazzled and befundled by this statement.
     
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  24. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane In My Safe Space

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    He means that it's a good introductory title if you want to try to get someone into turn-based wargaming, I think.

    There are many kinds of "strategy games". Someone who for example likes X-Com or Close Combat may not like a hex-based strategic wargame.
     
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