Grand Strategy Crusader Kings III - coming September 1st

I rate all updates meh without reading em.

 

Dude, you're not sea. Show some respect.

 

He hasn't posted since Jun 29, 2015. If he comes back I'll change the avy.

 

Lol Asatru, a made up neopagan term.

 

That's because CK3 takes place in modern sweden.

 

Having Adamites and Qarmatians in is good, although I worry that this system just means a whole bunch of really bland religions all over the map.

 

It's not like the CK2 ones were too deep either. At least with this system you can adjust your particular sect to your liking (always annoyed me that in vanilla CK2 you couldn't get a religious head for the Bogomilists).

 

Oh the CK2 system wasn't a whole lot better. This system just seems to look like slapping the whole pagan reformation mechanic on every single religion and calling it a day. I think it's a useful system for dynamic heresies and such, but I don't trust paradox to implement anything for any of the religions other than catholic/norse beyond a few generic tenet based events.

 

Paradox are a bunch of atheistic dipshits,the have zero chance of catching the fervent of a religious zeal,thus all religions are bland. The closest they got was in EU4 with orthodoxy restoring the Pentarchy. The games do lack any feedback of your actions,like capturing Jerusalem or mecca,an events that will send ripples around the world for decades. In reallity if mecca and meddina get owned by non kebabs,the whole kebab world will just drop everything and go for a full on wahabi jihad lol. But in their games nobody really cares,you just get a missionary.

 

The what now? The Bogdanoffists?

 

So I happened to browse bay12 for a bit today and I noticed that Paradox is using an at least superficially identical espionage system to the one I developed for Axioms Of Dominion. They even use the word Secrets in an identical way to my system. Of course the scope of my game allows for way cooler secrets. https://axioms-of-dominion.fandom.com/wiki/Secrets

And there are other functions that Paradox doesn't have the creativity to come up with. But still. Only took them 7 years to debut a concept with nearly identical functionality, for what functionality they have which isn't much, and an identical name. Granted the name is one of 4 or 5 "obvious" terms to use but still. Give them 10 years of DLC and they might get a system as detailed and nuanced as Axioms has/had.

Edit: I see they also have a system similar to my Government/Treaty/Charter system, although again in a massively scaled down way that suggests it is a placeholder for a system that is actually cool, called "Feudal Contracts".

 

Haven't really been paying attention, but the number of at least somewhat distinct religions is pretty cool, and prime for some quality byzantine hijinks.

 

If they put some effort in it,i would agree. But they are all generic religions that have a bunch of different modifiers that you have in the custom religion tab. EU did have a really good religion mod "Dei Gratia",but it hasn't been updated in quite some time. I believe it got mixed in the meou and taxes. Still nothing like declaring war on mamluks,your vassals decide to siege mecca and seeing the whole of isliamic world declare a jihad on to your sorry ass .

 

They actually seem to be doing something right with the religion for once... Even if it's just shitty modifier flip, it'd gonna be more than what CK2 had in that department. It makes me worry that they'll skimp on flavour though - once you start having dozens of religions, it starts being hard to make them all feel flavourful and distinct. Hopefully there'll be mods that'll improve it in that regard.

 

You can't do anything right with religion in a medieval game unless you operate under the premise that people(generally not pagans) honestly took their faith seriously and weren't just LARPing for some grotesque god-king. Like Fanta says, a lot of the fun of these games relies on that.

 

Can't they hire someone who knows something about the Catholic faith as a consultant? Like an actual Catholic perhaps?

 

Eh, you should make the distinction between official ('theological') religion and folk religion. Your average peasant did not understand the intricacies of the former and a heresy could've easily institutionalized itself as to replace it without too much protest from the masses.

As long as they make it extremely unlikely for the AI to make his own heresy, then it's quite historically accurate for the most part.

 

I recommend that you read The Cheese and the Worms, Hace El Oso.

You, Kz3r0, might also find it interesting.

 

Of course there is a distinction, and allowing the player-ruler to make sweeping alterations to their religion(with little opposition beyond piety points I'm sure, it being a modern paradox game after all) fails to honestly represent the zeal of those common people and rather depicts them as unthinking automatons. It smacks of atheistic orientalism.

Many of my fellows at university read it, I don't believe I have. I'll get it, thank you for the recommendation.

P.S.

 

Seeing as CK3 is cloning some of my ideas about international relations and espionage maybe they'll eventually have a DLC cloning the Ideology and Religion systems from Axioms.

 

Let's be honest here, nobody knows about your vaporware.
And you aren't a bastion of creativity either.
Neither of you are doing anything that interesting.

 

So bad. I already noticed the decline in CK2 and stopped playing it. It seems to be getting worse.

 

Actually talked to a couple of Paradox employees back in 2015. But doesn't of course mean design devs would have heard of it.