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Grand Strategy Crusader Kings III - coming September 1st

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by LESS T_T, May 26, 2019.

  1. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    That is the same with every religion lol,people back then didn't call their religion with some fancy name lol. Religion is an abstract thing that you believe,it doesn't need a brand.
     
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  2. Theodora Scholar Patron

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    Not disagreeing (and agree that the slavic one is boring), my point is that complaining about terms being ahistorical is the wrong way to go.

    Though I hope we can all agree that the "byzantine empire" should be called the Roman Empire. :argh:
     
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  3. Mikeal Cipher

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    Just like in CK1. :bounce:
     
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  4. Jack █▓▒░ Patron

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    Just to clarify, I was taking issue with the general direction the series was taking and the loss of focus. I think we are in complete agreement when it comes to China actually. If Paradox are going to go as big as they have then it only makes sense to include as much of Eurasia as possible, and considering their business model I'm sure they'll add China later on along with new mechanics and are just withholding it to nickel and dime consoomers (to do it justice if you want to be kind). I don't have a problem with this, as comrade Bakunin once said, the more DLC and content the developers add the more value you get once you pirate the game.
    Optimism is rare in these parts, you should treasure what little of it you have, comrade.
     
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  5. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    The Rome 2 approach. That worked out so well...
     
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  6. Zariusz Educated

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    I believe that there is big chance for chinese DLC, just look on this map, eastern part looks like it was teared out.
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  7. Theodora Scholar Patron

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    Yeah, the Deus Vult'ers don't want to believe, despite it being blatant as fuck.

    Fixed that for you btw:

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  8. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    why call it crusader kings if it has nothing to do with crusading lol
     
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  9. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    In current CK2 if the crusades get going Catholicism gets increasingly powerful with each one and eventually bulldozes all the way to China. So there's that.

    Kind of hard to deal with every catholic in the world attacking you at once + the resulting kingdom with infinite money to throw around in their own defense. Only reason the crusades have trouble initially is that they can't summon nearby help to fight the counter-jihad.
     
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  10. Theodora Scholar Patron

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    except it does, u memelord

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  11. Hace El Oso Learned Patron

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    The infidels OF Jerusalem? :roll:
     
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  12. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    It is de jure kingdom region in CK.
     
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  13. Zariusz Educated

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    I hope that that there will be mod that makes menu aesthetics simillar to ck2.
    Is it just me or CK3 terrain map looks worse than Imperator Rome one?

    And there is no Kolguyev island on map.
    No more frozen pyramids in the north
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    :negative:
     
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  14. Hace El Oso Learned Patron

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    The idea behind the first crusade was to liberate the Christian near east from Muslim rule, this text conveys none of that(rather the opposite) and is weirdly generic besides. Flavour is good, right?

    Anyway, we'll see if there are going to be any special texts for crusades/jihads for certain targets or during certain times.
     
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  15. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Buahahahahahaha expecting anything else from paradox lol,nice one mate :).
     
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  16. mbv123 Savant

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    I could live without sub-saharan Africa and India. Who even fucking cares about those regions? Remember all those fun poo playthroughs in CK2? Me neither.
     
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  17. Zariusz Educated

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    Its for earlier colonisation and negrogian empires.

    And remember all those nigga Byzantine emperors from Ghana and Ethiopia marriages in CK2? I almost always have them in my playthroughs.
     
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  18. Wyatt_Derp Arbiter

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    Pre-release build. Plenty of time for second guessing and sanitation buckets.
     
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  19. Commissar Draco Codexia Comrade Colonel Commissar Patron

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    Ethiopia aka Axum had contact with Mediterranean (bit diminished after VII century but still) world but Ghanna/Gold Coast? as source of black slaves for Barbary states in North Africa maybe.
     
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  20. Grim Monk Arcane

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    West Africa had three succeeding empires based on the trans-saharan trade of exporting gold, ivory, kola nuts, and yes slaves.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_Empire
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songhai_Empire

    To their east was Empire of Kanem–Bornu and its rivals the Hausa City States also existed on trans-saharan trade serving the central routes to what is now Libya.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanem–Bornu_Empire
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausa_Kingdoms

    Most of these empires aside form Ghana where Islamic.

    Also most slaves where aquired by those kingdoms from even more southern pagan tribes. Those where then sold to Berber traders who ran the oasis trade routes across the actual desert.

    Those nomadic desert tribes where usually disunited but under strong leadership could be forged into a deadly force for expansion. The great jihad that created the Almoravid Empire is a striking example.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almoravid_dynasty

    Arising among southern Berbers tribes from present day central Mauritania those where probably one of the literal examples of "Black Moors" in Medieval Europe.
     
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  21. Theodora Scholar Patron

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    Yeah, disingenuous as fuck for folks to act like having a region on the map means you're likely to see some Ghanain empire take over the British isles.
     
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  22. Zariusz Educated

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    To be honest many people in CK2 didnt like for example india because it wasnt interesting region to observe and they had problems with performance. That is why there were mods that removed certain regions like whole india.
     
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  23. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    The impact on medieval Europe of Sub-Saharan Africa and India were minimal, there's no real gameplay reason to include them when a few trade routes starting at the edges of the map and maybe a couple of events a la "This happened in a far-off land" should be enough. But adding more map space is easier than fleshing out existing stuff (because that'll be DLC). Look at Imperator: You've got India but it's literally exactly like any other nation because all of them are just generic.
     
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  24. Life of the Party Arcane

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  25. Theodora Scholar Patron

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    It's a teeny, tiny thing, but I love that the Old North got reified. They're so often forgotten about! The only other game I've seen them explicitly portrayed in was Thrones of Britannia, maybe because games tend to go off public expectation more than historical fact. (And for several reasons, folks usually don't think through to the fact that Brittonic-speaking people filled the island all the way to Hadrian's Wall prior to the Migration Period.)

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    (And probably not what anyone here cares about, but West Africa's cultural map is super detailed; I wonder if that fragmentation will help prevent ahistorical blobbing in the region.)

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