Grand Strategy Crusader Kings III - coming September 1st

It would be too much effort, when were you born, yesterday? Paradox are lazy fucks. Besides, they know autistic modders will do that for them.

 

Is Ck1 any good? I have CK2 but haven’t played it. Worth just skipping the original?

 

Yes, CK2 is better than CK1, there's just more stuff in it and there are at least some decent mods which fix what Paradox fucked up (HIP for example). Still, CK1 is a nice game in its own.

 

The biggest difference is infant mortality. It's high as fuck.

 

Dude Paradox wants money, CK2 is a huge hit but you cant milk DLC for 7 years old game forever. You need something new and fresh and seeing the popularity of fantasy mods and endless possibilities of adding new races and events as DLC, Fantasy Kings would be a slam dunk.

 

It's too much work. Paradox makes simple, lazy games and they mass produce simple, lazy DLCs (yes, with some exceptions, to give Swedes their due, some additions are good). Fantasy CK2 would be too much trouble just to make it work as a template, they have no time nor will to do that.

 

New Crusader Kings when you still cant play as Pope or Grand Master of Templars/Hospitaliers/Teutonic Knights after seven years of DLC adding shit like Aztec Invasion, Joos, India, China and playable horses, Paradox can go and F... themselves.

 

Fantasy is only really appealing to me if it has tactical combat with OP spellcasters and paradox engines don't really support that.

 

CK3 before Vicky 3?

y i k e s

 

So you are saying you never want CK3 to come out? Actually I agree.

 

I'd prefer Victoria 3 personaly...... but Crusader Kings is the cash maker so they are going with it first.

 

Crusader Kings 2 GoT mod is pretty good. Well, with a caveat. You have to get used to some new mechanics.
If you want to play in Westeros, forget about traditional map painting.
Some Essos starting locations are interesting. Corsairs (don't confuse with pirates) are super fun. My Corsair King of House Muh'Dik managed to kidnap Daenerys and make her a concubine. Corsairs on dragons incoming!

 

Depends on the bookmark, but most of them are set in an era in which you can freely paint the map inside the Iron Throne. Map gets fucked up in like 20 years, tops, nevermind the bookmark (late ones are particularly ridiculous, 'cause of all the events).

Mod is good, I mean it's a work of good, solid craftsmanship, but it just shows how shallow the setting is.

 

Yes its no half as fun nor complex as playing as Bretonian Knight, Dwari King or Imperial Noble in Warhammer mod Comrade.

 

To be clear, they are *never* going to make Victoria 3.

 

After rome, who is going to day one purchase that ? Would only if it already includes more content than ck2 with all its extensions, that's not going to happen.

 

I just hope they overhaul the mechanics properly.
Not be an abomination like Rome.

 

I have Stellaris in my library because it was included in some bundle I once bought. Haven't played it once yet because I don't have any DLC for it yet, and I'll just wait until they don't make DLC for it anymore so I can buy the full package and play the complete, finished game.

Same with Imperator Rome. Not even interested in buying it before at least 5 years have passed and half a dozen DLCs were released to flesh it out.

Paradox games these days are absolutely not worth playing on release, it takes at least a couple of years of patches and DLCs to turn them into halfway finished games. First release is always a beta version at best.

Paradox releases new game = ah cool, I'll check back in 5 years maybe then it's a decent game, and if not mods have fixed it.

 

CK2 is better. Don't bother with CK1 unless you really, really want to play it.

 

chances of victoria 3 being good are close to zero(if it ever comes out lol)

 

And the game will not be complete until a year later with half a dozen dlcs. Never buy a paradox game at lunch

 

Only but em after my midnight snack personally.

 

Lol. Fantasy GSG would be awesome. Games with lore mean only 1 in 10 countries are interesting.

 

I doubt they'll make CK3 anytime soon, their current self-described "longline fishing" release model instead of a sequel-based model has proven extremely lucrative, so I doubt they'll change that.

As for Warhammer and such, the best way to play that is the Geheimnisnacht mod for CK2 (also why Pdox has no reason to pay for licensing that).