Official Codex Discord Server

  1. Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.
    Dismiss Notice

Review CVG trashes ShadowFlare

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Saint_Proverbius, Oct 25, 2002.

  1. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    Tags: Shadowflare

    <a href="http://www.computerandvideogames.com/">CVG</a> has posted a really, really, really brief <A href="http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php{que}id=82418">review</a> of <a href="http://www.shadowflare.us/">ShadowFlare</a>, giving it a <b>28%</b>. Here's the <a href="http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php{que}id=82418">review</a>:
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote><b>24 Oct 02</b> You must be Diablo and I claim my five pounds. Well it might as well be. Confused? Let me explain. If we were playing 20 questions and you asked: Is it an RPG? Do you play in a low resolution? Has it got a minimal storyline? Is it full of repetitive mouse clicking? Do you battle relentless hordes? Do you start out in a small town? Do you wander around fields and dungeons completing simple missions? Do you slowly level up your stats? And do you gain an ever more powerful supply of weapons? Can you also cast magic? Do you constantly have to unload your inventory in order to pick up everything? Do you carry on this cycle until the end?
    <br>
    <br>
    And if I nodded yes, you'd have jumped up and shouted Diablo. And I'd have shaken my head and said no. But if you'd asked more questions: Does it do nothing to improve on Diablo? Have these people never played Diablo 2? Or Dungeon Siege? Are the levels so unimaginative that they all look the same? Have they mostly done nothing but change the colour palette for the enemies as they get harder? Is there little variation between the look of weapons? Do you keep having to identify the potentially useful weapons with a merchant despite having done so hundreds of times before? Is it ridiculously tough? Is it a boring repetitious mess of unoriginality not worth dragging yourself through?
    <br>
    <br>
    THEN YOU'D HAVE LOST. THAT WAS OVER 20 QUESTIONS. AH WELL.</blockquote>
    <br>
    <br>
    Honestly, that's the whole review. Two and a half paragraphs.
    <br>
    <br>
    Snagged from <a href="http://rpgdot.com">RPGDot</a>
     
    ^ Top  
  2. Sol Invictus Erudite

    Sol Invictus
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2002
    Messages:
    9,614
    Location:
    Pax Romana
    That is honestly one of the funniest reviews I've ever read. But alas, it's just another case of "big magazine picks on little indy developer".

    Jeez, I just wish that the big magazines would stop picking on the little unknown games and deal with something their own size.

    You'll notice that the only games with bad reviews are the ones released by small, struggling companies like CDV (Sudden Strike series, and lately DivDiv), JoWood (a host of games, but let's not think about that crappy CRPG they made), Nival Interactive (Rage of Mages, Etherlords, etc.) and the other small companies, or small game development studios, like our little Reflexive.
     
    ^ Top  
  3. Sol Invictus Erudite

    Sol Invictus
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2002
    Messages:
    9,614
    Location:
    Pax Romana
    Oh, and sometimes, they'll even resort to giving a good, somewhat popular (though not hyped) game a poor review, just because it's not hyped. Like that crappy UK game review show "Cybernet", and their review of Age of Wonders 2, where they called it a real time strategy game that will "hit the bargain bin" for being "slow and unexciting", and the fact that it didn't have "top of the line 3d graphics as exhibited in Warcraft 3."

    What? The game looks wonderful!
     
    ^ Top  
  4. Sol Invictus Erudite

    Sol Invictus
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2002
    Messages:
    9,614
    Location:
    Pax Romana
    P.S. Shadowflare sucks.
     
    ^ Top  
  5. Deathy Liturgist

    Deathy
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2002
    Messages:
    793
    Y'know Rex, there is an edit function.
     
    ^ Top  
  6. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    PC Gamer gave Avernum a 17%. :shock:
     
    ^ Top  
  7. Constipated Craprunner Erudite

    Constipated Craprunner
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,256
    Location:
    Chicago. And damn anyone who is not the same.
    Before PCGamer became crap, they gave Geneforge an 89, I think.
    Not even I would score it that high.
     
    ^ Top  
  8. Deathy Liturgist

    Deathy
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2002
    Messages:
    793
    Even though it deserves it?
     
    ^ Top  
  9. Vikjunk Novice

    Vikjunk
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2002
    Messages:
    52
    Location:
    Junktown
    Geneforge seemed like a really cool game. Too bad I couldn't get into it because I didn't care for the controls... :?
     
    ^ Top  
  10. Ibbz Augur

    Ibbz
    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2002
    Messages:
    460
    Actually CDV is quite large - they are publishing IG 3, Combat Mission, Cossacks, Neocron, IGI 2 {?} {+ plenty more} aswell as the ones you mentioned and numerous other "erotica" games. As far as i know, Sudden strike and Combat mission have been rated quite highly and IG 3 certainly has plenty of potential.
     
    ^ Top  
  11. Peregrine Novice

    Peregrine
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    12
    I would definitely give Geneforge an 89, or higher. It rocks.
     
    ^ Top  
  12. Xerophyte Educated

    Xerophyte
    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2002
    Messages:
    43
    Location:
    The dark netherworld of dutch Gouda cheese
    Mmm . . . Combat Mission. Not accessible to to the neophyte, maybe, but an absolute freaking necessity for any serious wannabe tactician. It r0x0rz. It is w00tism personified.

    But I didn't post here to say that. I posted to say that they probably kick the games they don't expect the their consumers to like. This includes most low-budget hardcore roleplaying games, since most consumers of PC Gamer quite assuredly don't like low budget hardcore roleplaying games. That someone actually rated Geneforge 89 in a commercial magazine is surprising; I assume they put it in an obscure spot where no one noticed it without looking closely and even then made sure to safeguard a lot by abusing the word "value." :)
     
    ^ Top  

(buying stuff via the above buttons helps us pay the hosting bills, thanks!)