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From Software Dark Souls 3

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Makabb, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. praetor Arcane

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    Eyestabber in the next area you'll find plenty of large tittie shards so don't fret over it. as for going dex or quality/refined, the latter is just better in damage output (although you'll need to wait more to get it :)), so go with that, but for now go for 40 dex (or rather, go for 37 for now as you'll soon find a cool ring that boosts your dex by 3. and then decide if you want it or not and level dex all the way to 40. there's not many good rings anyway so...) since you're almost there anyway and infuse with sharp, then when you get to 40 str (or even sooner) you can just reinfuse it with refined. just my 0,02$ :)
     
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  2. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, since I reached 40 dex (with Carthus ring) I'm using a Sharp LKS. From here I'm not sure if I'm going for extra HP/Stamina and sticking to Sharp (40 DEX) OR If 40/40 is better (tho with less stamina and HP)
     
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  3. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    If you want to go for a quality build the first sword you had in your hands is one of the best quality weapons, when refined.
     
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  4. praetor Arcane

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    44 Vig (softcap), 40 End (softcap), 35 str/40 dex (or 38/37 if using carthus) and you'll be at SL120 (no point in wasting stats in Vit or others) without sacrificing anything and being an unstoppable killing machine
     
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  5. toro Arcane

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    I don't hate Dark Souls 3.

    I already posted this thing several times but it seems nobody is really interested in hearing any criticism about this game. So be it.
     
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  6. sullynathan Arcane

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    Why is vigor soft cap so high yet vitality is so low? Messes up my build.
     
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  7. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    So I am in the catacombs, get invaded. Fight the guy a bit, I'm winning the trades (Glaive weapon art is pretty stronk). He pops an estus (and then, so do I since honor is out) and then runs away past the slumbering skellie hordes. Since I know what's going to happen I don't follow, and just pop a seed of giants. I then proceed to explore the rest of the level at a leisurely pace, while the invader just stands on the other side of the skellie horde he created, while having a lot of fun I'm sure.

    PvP in this game is such a travesty. I'm considering just blocking the .exe from accessing the internet.
     
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  8. Cowboy Moment Arcane

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    Bro, I wrote a huge tldr; about why the game was disappointing to me a few weeks back and nobody seemed especially butthurt about it. Your criticisms are, for the most part, just dumb and random as hell. As multiple people have noted, the majority of your complaints apply to every other game in the series just as well, and it seems completely nonsensical to call DS3 a "bad Dark Souls game" based on that.

    Honestly, in this very thread you said Pontiff was impossible to beat without a shield and admitted to only having been able to kill the Outrider Knight before RoS on your 4th playthrough. It seems to me like you have a very poor intuitive understanding of DS3 mechanics, the game just doesn't click with you no matter how much you play, and your irrational criticisms are a product of frustration caused by this. I'd suggest playing a different game, honestly, you're on the Celerity road right now I'm afraid.
     
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  9. toro Arcane

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    I got a few hundreds of hours in both DaS and DaS2 and my genuine impression is that DaS3 went overboard with artificial difficulty stuff. I'm probably too dumb to express myself properly in English (with the correct nuances) but I still don't see any reason to contradict my first hand experience.

    Again I see the retarded argument that all the games in the franchise were plagued with the same problems. Which is true but it doesn't change the fact that the level of artificial difficulty in DaS3 is obnoxious compared to the previous games.

    This complain could be random for you but it is the thing that bothers me the most about DaS3. And in the end, I only speak for myself.

    Now, you are full of bullshit. I said that a shield trivialize the Pontiff fight (which it does) and that I had problems with the Outrider Knights in my 1st run (because I did not invest at all in Vigor and at that moment I did not feel comfortable with the faster pace of the combat). I beat the shit out of them in the 2nd run with equip load <30% and Vigor 20+. Do you want a video? :)

    My frustration comes from the fact that something was lost in translation, DaS3 no longer has the charm that even DaS2 had. Technically the game feels like a professional job - cold and calculated. Streamlined. It's no longer a labor of love. They squeezed all the mechanics inside with minimal balance, then they ramp up the artificial bullshit and they released the product. Good for them. Not so good for the players. The game will be forgettable in the end.

    Another thing is, I don't understand why they gave up on all the good mechanics from DaS2 cause some things were really good. And I hate the Bloodborne influences - it's the wrong direction in which DaS games should evolve. It feels that they squandered a lot of potential.


    Anyway, my advice is to save your time and neurons. Your arguments are (1) DaS3 bullshit is acceptable because DaS and DaS2 did it before and (2) I need to Git Gud. Both seem flimsy to me and I don't agree on neither points. You really don't have anything new to say to what others already mentioned.

    Can we agree to disagree !? and move on.
     
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  10. Sinatar Arbiter

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    The game has a built in option to play in offline mode.
     
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  11. Cowboy Moment Arcane

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    I actually do know what you mean, but "artificial difficulty" is just a stupid term that doesn't mean much and is typically used by retards to complain about stuff that forces them to pay attention and play well. You will find no end of complaints about "artificial difficulty" in all the Souls games online, about basically anything, up to and including not being able to cancel animations or needing stamina to roll.





    Here is what you said:

    Seems about right to me.

    See, this post is actually more reasonable than what you've written before, which honestly seemed like anger-fueled rants more than anything else. I pretty much agree with everything here, save for the "artificial difficulty" shit, which doesn't mean much. What I don't like about the combat, and I think you'd agree here, is that it only has very extreme outcomes - you either wreck enemies with R1 spam or they wreck you with their own spam, and all the careful zoning, stamina management and using the right attack sequences in openings, which made up the combat in previous Souls games, basically don't exist here. You roll through the enemy's first swing, and then spam and hope they die. The problem here doesn't have much to do with difficulty, really.

    And I don't think DS3 bullshit is acceptable, I just think your examples weren't that good, and that there are bigger problems with the game than a few cheap enemy designs.

    But anyway, agree to disagree if that's what you want.
     
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  12. toro Arcane

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    I started the game several time (probably 15+) but only 4 times I went from start to finish. I abandoned the game several times before/after the Undead Settlement. When I said 4th run it was more like the 4th try of a build/run. Sorry for the confusion.

    I stand correct about the Pontiff fight.

    Please indulge me.
     
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  13. Raghar Arcane

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    Finished Dark Souls 3. 128 hours. I had hell in first phase of last boss, to have easy the second phase.
     
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  14. taviow Magister

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    Might be a shameful thing to admit but I did have a bit of trouble with the final boss at first, mainly 1st phase. This one didn't seem as easy as Gwyn and Nashandra. Anyone else share this sentiment?
     
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  15. sullynathan Arcane

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    Even though I beat the soul of cinder the first time it wasn't as easy as gwyn or nashandra.
    Definitely more fun to fight than both of them
     
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  16. Elwro Arcane

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    And fun to fight when summoned to help other people. The fights can end up being quite diverse due to the number of ways he might attack.
     
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  17. sullynathan Arcane

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    Yeah, unlike some other bosses, soul of cinders AI doesn't completely fuck up with more than 1 person.
     
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  18. polo Erudite

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    Soul of cinder scimitar/pyromancer always was annoying to me.
     
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  19. Perkel Arcane

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    new patch is out

    people report that R1 on most of straight swords and thrusting swords is slowed down. So whiny bitches should be happy.

     
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  20. Perkel Arcane

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    community findings:

     
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  21. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    So, I'm starting to get the timings down on the new Dark Souls and thus I'm progressing much faster now. The Dancer completely and utterly raped me but OTOH I beat Oceiros on my first try! :P

    Here is what my guy looks like (I'm at the entrance to the Grand Archives):

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    I love the look of the Silver Knight Armor. Herald's helm for fashion Souls purposes.

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    I'm still Dex-LKS based. Very effective build, IMO.

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    I'm still enjoying the game. And I think the level design is pretty awesome!
     
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  22. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    Alright, so I finished the game by killing the Soul of Cinder and linking the flame. Ending is crap, as per DS tradition. Final boss was...very interesting, but not very challenging. Killed him on my first try. The Dancer is, IMO, still the hardest boss. :P
     
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  23. Villagkouras Arbiter

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    I wasted an afternoon in the final boss and killed Dancer on my first try hahaha! Did you visit any optional areas?
     
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  24. Corporate_Jew_Master Arcane

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    Yeah, estimates on boss difficulty are, as ever, wild as fuck. Only struggled to beat Sulyvahn, killed Nameless King on 2nd try in all 3 of my playthroughs, never died to dancer, Champion Gundyr was somewhat challenging and Soul of Cinder ranks next in difficulty to Sulyvahn imo.

    Unlike in ds1, I cannot parry well in 3, even with caestus. PVP aside, I find it impossible to parry Sulyvahn.
     
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  25. Eyestabber Arcane Patron

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    I just learned I missed pretty much all optional areas. Funny how I was still strong enough to take on the final boss. I'm guessing I fare better with PvP style fights.

    Is the banning problem fixed? Can I buy the game now? :D :D :D :D
     
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