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From Software Dark Souls 3

Perkel

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Respec for trying to beat her on sl35. It is doable though. I first fought her with my heavy build sl 100 and couldn't beat her for a least a day. After few playtroughs i managed to get her at lvl40.

The most challenging boss out of all souls series to me. Also she alone took pretty shit expansion to high level.
 

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Never beat her solo. There were a few bosses in DS3 I didn't beat solo in my first playthrough but eventually I did all of them but this bitch and Gael.

I probably could with enough time and patience (I spent 6 hours on the Saint in Sekiro but I did it) but honestly I just can't be bothered. I really don't like DS3.
 

Lutte

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Respec for trying to beat her on sl35. It is doable though. I first fought her with my heavy build sl 100 and couldn't beat her for a least a day. After few playtroughs i managed to get her at lvl40.

The most challenging boss out of all souls series to me. Also she alone took pretty shit expansion to high level.
IMHO, she is the second hardest of the souls I played (the only content I haven't done is bloodborne's DLC since it wasn't in psnow, which I hear has something ghastly). I found Gael harder because it's a pure endurance fight and the longer something takes the more I start doing shit.

Friede is tricky, but she has surprisingly low HP in reality (despite having three bars), at least if you've got a build with some decent damage going. Only the third phase of the fight is challenging too. Since I died quite a lot to the third phase the first time I fought her, I pretty much could do the first two phases without being hit once after that amount of practice. She's quite prone to being stunlocked in first phase, and is easy to backstab. Second phase is even more trivial, she does almost nothing besides a few punts from range while the other dude is just some slow ass giant.

Third phase.. is really really hard. But there's a few tricks to it. Like, there's an 'ideal range' to move away from her that triggers desirable attacks, mainly one of her jumping attacks, which is one of the easier attacks to punish (you may even be lucky enough to dodge behind her and backstab her during this phase!). If you try to directly confront her in melee the fight is utterly nuts. When I went through multiple NG+ having fun with respeccing into new builds and weapons I always applied this strategy and it works pretty well. Play the kite game. Don't attack, just keep moving away, wait until she jumps, then punish. You're always guaranteed to hit her back freely if you can dodge that jump attack. It's a lot more unpredictable to try to hit her back during regular melee.
 

Perkel

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Also for those who don't know. You should try Cinders overhaul for DS3. It really changes a lot game for better. Especially if you are gameplay first instead of being storyfag.

IMHO, she is the second hardest of the souls I played (the only content I haven't done is bloodborne's DLC since it wasn't in psnow, which I hear has something ghastly).

Nah Kos is maybe 3rd at best.
 

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Never beat her solo. There were a few bosses in DS3 I didn't beat solo in my first playthrough but eventually I did all of them but this bitch and Gael.

I probably could with enough time and patience (I spent 6 hours on the Saint in Sekiro but I did it) but honestly I just can't be bothered. I really don't like DS3.
Yeah this. Game is not worth the effort. Just summon someone to help you.
 

cruel

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DS3 as a whole was not that great, but both Friede and Gael go into my top 3 favorite bosses ever. Third one would be either Ludwig or Artorias.

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toro

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I decided to move on.

I simply don't have the damage to kill Friede and I don't want to respec.

I roll with what I have.

some humor
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pontiff is down. 5th tries until i realized i'm using the wrong shield.
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these beasts are a nightmare. thank god they don't respawn.
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took a 30 min break and i don't know if this is meta or not but i used the armor of thorns and it worked like a charm on Aldricht
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don't kick the mimics
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the mimic actually won :)
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old demon king was a good fight
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I'm level 40. I will post my stats next time.
 

toro

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This went south. My plan was to access Ringed City DLC and get the +3 rings.

Well, there is no point in doing that because I'm invading people in full Havel + fast rolling + shit ton of damage. Or Ringed Knight Set (!?).

I don't blame them because that's what I was trying to do but you simply cannot have heavy armor + fast rolling + good damage at lvl 40.

This makes me suspect that a lot of players are buffing their damage or defense stats with cheats. At least for me this is pretty obvious.

Another point is that the majority of invasions are retarded ganks which (1) rush you on sight or (2) wait for you to attack them (!?).

Basically the game is infested with losers which are destroying the PvP experience. Literally cancer in human form.

I don't know what to say. It was nice trying to finish the game at a low level but the state of PvP experience in DaS3 is depressing.
 

Jokzore

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If you're playing a souls game for the PvP experience you're about 4 years too late. Just like with everything else the interwebs and meta gaming has ruined it.

Yes there's a lot of hackers who use all kinds of cheats, but most of the time its just someone who optimized every little thing imaginable. The armor they wear was calculated for best protection based on w.e stats they have. Their weapon is optimally leveled and enchanted for a specific level range. Their rings are probably max level variants from NG++ that someone traded to them. Same goes for their spells and consumables.

Basically, if you're PvPing in a souls game in 2020 you should always be expecting a ''twink''.
 

Damned Registrations

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Basically, if you're PvPing in a souls game in 2020 you should always be expecting a ''twink''.
As opposed to only 70% of the time, back when it was 'good'.

To be fair I did have a bit of fun fucking around with duels for a while, less douchery with red signs as opposed to actual invasions. I can't recall the name of the spot but there was a pathway on a hill leading upwards in the endgame that was great- the verticallity made the whole moveset relevant instead of just a couple optimal moves.
 

Perkel

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nice, looks like they were able to finally port animations from previous games. Which means huge news as converting animations was an huge issue with those games as every single one of them changed technology. Importing models from previous games already was a thing for past few months which is why Cinders effectively has DS1+DS2+BB stuff in it but those were without animations, so stuff used DS3 animations.

Which means now only navmeshing is last hurdle they need to overcome. They are already able to make their own levels but enemy AI doesn't know how to move in them due to navmesh not existing and being some sort of custom garbage they were using. Once they are done with that pretty much anything will be possible with DS3 engine.
 

toro

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If you're playing a souls game for the PvP experience you're about 4 years too late. Just like with everything else the interwebs and meta gaming has ruined it.

Yes there's a lot of hackers who use all kinds of cheats, but most of the time its just someone who optimized every little thing imaginable. The armor they wear was calculated for best protection based on w.e stats they have. Their weapon is optimally leveled and enchanted for a specific level range. Their rings are probably max level variants from NG++ that someone traded to them. Same goes for their spells and consumables.

Basically, if you're PvPing in a souls game in 2020 you should always be expecting a ''twink''.

I know but at the same time there is no way to optimize the character in such a way that you fast roll with Havel armor at lvl 40.

Seriously, show me such a build. It drives me mad when I see them :)

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He is level 16 with 30 points in Vitality :)
 
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toro

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I did the most stupid thing ever: I've upgraded my weapon to +10 and now I cannot invade or get invaded :) :) :) It's like I've nuked my own character. Rip.

I guess this run is over but I've learned a few things:
- I'm not as retarded as I thought. With proper preparation I imagine doing a really low level run.
- Low level makes you appreciate the DaS 3 bosses design (dragonslayer armor and lothric prince are excellent, pontiff, friede and demons are complete shit, aldrich is a joke)
- Friede and Demons are damage gates for DLCs (i was doing like 85 damage per hit on Demon Prince with my Claymore +4 which meant that I needed 50+ hits to get him to half hp -> fuck that)
- Best pvp is early pvp. The shit show starts sometime after level 30. Don't upgrade weapons to +10 ... unless you are over lvl 90.
- I just realized that the last games I've played are Underrail, CS:Go and DaS3. I'm truly fucked.
 

toro

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There is a resurgence of players in all DaS games because they are on discount at the moment.

So, if someone wants to try Pvp then now it's the moment. There is fun to be had.

Lvl 40 is insane. Full with twinks and good Pvp-ers.
 

Ramnozack

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Sounds tempting to play RN. Dark Souls 3 was the only one I never finished, got bored right before the end and just stopped playing a couple years ago. Busy playing Warband:Viking Conquest atm though.
 

Metro

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Never finished either. Stopped shortly after the Giant and just never picked it up again. Game apparently doesn't have cloud saving because when I got a new computer the save didn't transfer over and I don't have a desire to start all over again.
 

toro

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Never finished either. Stopped shortly after the Giant and just never picked it up again. Game apparently doesn't have cloud saving because when I got a new computer the save didn't transfer over and I don't have a desire to start all over again.

It has.

Edit: They were introduced with a later patch. The latest version has cloud saves.
 

toro

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I'm having a blast.
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I'm a despicable human being but this is what you need to be in Dark Souls.

40 Sunlight Medals later:
- Won a fight club with 3 guys: host, sunbro and blue guy. 2 wins with Parry.
- Won a fight against a gank of three. Baited them on the bridge for the mobs.
- Won a perfect match against a host. It was perfect. I surprised myself.

Of course, guys with weapons from DLC have already started to appear even at this level 20.
 
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