Dark Souls is absolutely an RPG, explanation

[JDR13]

there's a lot more RPG than action, e.g. you can make a build that will barely depend on reaction time at all.

 

[Paul_cz]

This is just insane. Nobody who has ever played Diablo and Dark Souls can reasonably say this.

I find it insane denying it. That said I do NOT deny that there are obvious differences in specifics (handcraft vs random generation etc like you mentioned). But in the end, both games are primarily about murdering hordes of monsters. I will consider Dark Souls an RPG when it gives me much more player agency and game mechanics to support different (noncombat) playstyles + detailed dialogue system. Basically, when it will become RPG.

 

[JarlFrank]

and for me the conversations/dialogues and the choices i make in them are THE staple of an RPG game. if there are no conversations and/or choices to be made that way or if you can basically "111111" through the whole game to me it's already an RPG-light or rather, more "A-rpg" than "a-RPG". "silent protagonist" or "it's a mysteria, that you have to interpret yourself" is only an excuse for "we cheaped out on the writing team";

Ok so Wizardry and Might and Magic are not RPGs.

 

[barghwata]

It's just an Action/RPG hybrid, now which of the two it leans more towards is debatable, but it's certainly RPG enough to be considered a hybrid.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

Not only is Dark Souls a bonafide RPG; it is also a JRPG.

Take that haters of glorious Nippon

 

[Alex]

I don't hate Japan. I am actually quite fond of some things from there.


I just hate anime.

 

[MpuMngwana]

But in the end, both games are primarily about murdering hordes of monsters. I will consider Dark Souls an RPG when it gives me much more player agency and game mechanics to support different (noncombat) playstyles + detailed dialogue system. Basically, when it will become RPG.

Man, I sure had a good time talking Werdna into commiting suicide in true, proper, supportive of non-combat playstyles role playing RPG game Wizardryroving Grounds of the Mad Overlord.

 

[Gibson]

and for me the conversations/dialogues and the choices i make in them are THE staple of an RPG game. if there are no conversations and/or choices to be made that way or if you can basically "111111" through the whole game to me it's already an RPG-light or rather, more "A-rpg" than "a-RPG". "silent protagonist" or "it's a mysteria, that you have to interpret yourself" is only an excuse for "we cheaped out on the writing team";

Ok so Wizardry and Might and Magic are not RPGs.

compared to PS:T of Fallout, no, not really.

 

[JarlFrank]

This just in: there were no RPGs before the 1990s!

 

[Villagkouras]

Dark Souls is a souls-like game. /thread

 

[DalekFlay]

but seriously: it's a 3d metroidvania - because it just is.

I got flak on here for saying this before, but... how much difference is there between Dark Souls and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night beyond 2D vs. 3D? Not much. Both have stats, loot, shops, dialogues, etc. Castlevania assigns your stats for you, but they're there, and the equipment you choose effects them. You also choose which "perks" you apply. It's the same shit but 2D, and I doubt many would call SotN an RPG. Which isn't me saying Dark Souls isn't an RPG, just that maybe these labels don't matter much in the end.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

I bet you people would even think Soul Caliber is an RPG. You can create a character, it has a plot in which you can choose your path, distinct archetypes that are mutually exclusive, items, and ability modifiers. So what if it requires alittle bit of reflexes? Its a bonafide RPG.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

It's a text-adventure too. You can write your name (using a controller obviously).

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

This just in: there were no RPGs before the 1990s!

CYOA is the new RPG.

 

[Grauken]

RPS says its the best RPG currently on PC, so it must be true

 

[barghwata]

RPS says its the best RPG currently on PC, so it must be true

Haha RPS's Best RPGs list is hilarious, everytime i look at it, i remember how prestegious the codex truly is in comparison to everyone else.

 

[Suicidal]

With that said, Dark Souls raised a generation of insufferable faggots who believe souls-like games are the most hardcorest things ever and every game should be compared to dork souls. A lot of those retards ended up in gayming journalism, so the hatred for DaS is at least partially justified.

This might have been true during the Demons/Dark Souls 1 era, because the genre was new and even semi challenging games weren't really a thing at that time. Especially critics wents nuts over that. Nowadays Dark Souls faggots always complain about how the games are not difficult enough (and critics made a total 180 on that, which will never not be hilarious to me).

Hardcore Souls/From software fanboys are chromosome hoarders that constantly complain that action game XYZ is not enough like Dark Souls, but when someone copies dark souls a bit too literally then they immediately bitch about how game XYZ is a Dark Souls clone and devs can't think for themselves.

Also, many times I noticed that the average soulsfag bitches about other games being not hard enough, but his 2 braincells immediately overload when he plays something like Nioh, where you can perform more than 2 different attacks with your weapon, or Surge 2, which has directional parrying and you can't just hammer the parry button like a monkey like in Sekiro and survive unscathed. Then suddenly the game in question is "needlessly complicated" or "unfair".

I think the Dark Souls series are good games but holy fuck their fanboys are almost Undertale level of cancer.

As for if they're RPGs or not - if Diablo and similar shit is considered "action RPGs" and then so should soulslikes, as they are basically 3rd person Diablo games with better combat.

 

[Paul_cz]

RPS says its the best RPG currently on PC, so it must be true

This is literally the best evidence that Dark Souls is not an RPG :D

 

[barghwata]

RPS says its the best RPG currently on PC, so it must be true

This is literally the best evidence that Dark Souls is not an RPG :D

The third best RPG in their list is Baldur's Gate 2, guess that means it's not an RPG either.

 

[JarlFrank]

RPS says its the best RPG currently on PC, so it must be true

This is literally the best evidence that Dark Souls is not an RPG :D

The third best RPG in their list is Baldur's Gate 2, guess that means it's not an RPG either.

Plot twist: nothing is an RPG.

 

[Mikeal]

The third best RPG in their list is Baldur's Gate 2, guess that means it's not an RPG either.

Codex hate BDG 2.

 

[Bester]

i remember how prestegious the codex truly is in comparison to everyone else.

Oh yea, Codexians are fucking Aristotles of our times. Never mind that they all played Fallout 3 and even loved Skyrim ("mods fixed it, guys!"), but refuse to play DS, one of the best RPGs of this century.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

The third best RPG in their list is Baldur's Gate 2, guess that means it's not an RPG either.

Codex hate BDG 2.

RTwP is not TB enough.

 

[barghwata]

i remember how prestegious the codex truly is in comparison to everyone else.

Oh yea, fucking Aristotles of our times. Never mind that they all played Fallout 3 and even loved Skyrim ("mods fixed it, guys!"), but refuse to play DS, one of the best RPGs of this century.

Are you saying the codex prefer Skyrim and fallout 3 over Dark Souls?

 

[commie]

i remember how prestegious the codex truly is in comparison to everyone else.

Oh yea, Codexians are fucking Aristotles of our times. Never mind that they all played Fallout 3 and even loved Skyrim ("mods fixed it, guys!"), but refuse to play DS, one of the best RPGs of this century.

Sorry Bester, but Dungeon Siege sucked balls....