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Diablo IV

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Wulfric Pinewood, Nov 1, 2019.

  1. Shadenuat Arcane

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    it's not "flamboistic" just nonsensical, random shapeless stuff drawn over character bodies.
     
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  2. S0rcererV1ct0r Savant

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    Yep. But why Blizzard South loves this carnival-like "armors' so much???

    Gothic 1 has IMO the best armor of 00s games.

     
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  3. Jedi Exile Arcanum Patron

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    Project: Eternity Shadorwun: Hong Kong
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  4. vonAchdorf Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  5. Diablo1_reborn Savant

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    Nothing to see. Just another portrayal of Blizzard having completely lost the touch with the franchise and their audience.
     
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  6. DraQ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Yeah, how about no?

    Why don't you faggots learn to quote instead of twatting?
    Is everyone mentally fucking deficient these days?
     
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  7. samuraigaiden Learned

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    Skyrim + Gears + Diablo = still better than Diablo 3
     
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  8. KeighnMcDeath Scholar

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    I hear the other demon slaying game is going to change the standard for more than its own genre. Doom Eternal will probably make Diablo 4 crap its diaper for years to come.
     
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  9. DraQ Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Diablo II: Abridged Version.
     
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  10. OctavianRomulus Educated

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    Some of the armor looks flamboyant but still something that looks like it's physically possible in reality. Plus, what you see there is only the top tier armor so it kinda makes sense. It's very different from the armor in WOW, which D3 also had.

    What do you think of Rod Fergusson joining. Is this a good thing?
     
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  11. Shadenuat Arcane

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    anyone joining anywhere means little in the corporate world as proved many times; recently by Outer Worlds. what matters is vision.
     
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  12. S0rcererV1ct0r Savant

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    The problem with Blizzard Irvine is that they are SO used to WoW that they can't do anything different. When some people criticized cooldowns, a dev awsnered that they don't wanna the ability to summon ancients to be "spammed" as if cooldowns are the unique way to limit the usage of powerful skills... They probably don't even know how to make a more Diablo style armor design.
     
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  13. OctavianRomulus Educated

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    I don't know, to me the D4 armor looks like it comes from the same lineage as this, not WOW, which was the case for D3.

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  14. S.torch Learned

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    At least some of the armor in Diablo 3 was good looking. The one they're putting here are just uglier.
     
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  15. S0rcererV1ct0r Savant

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    Armor doesn't need to be 100% historically accurate to be gorgeous

    Faraam set on DS2

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    Name one. Because i HATED d3 artstyle in every aspect. Not only armor. The necromancer looks more like a jrpg protagonist than a necromancer...

    But the worst is mechanic wise, imagine a master necromancer lecturing his students and saying

    "When i faced the skeleton king, i used the siphon blood and drained all blood from the skeleton. Was not hard, only took a long time because i had't a big and sharp axe, so the damage that i could inflict when i casted siphon blood was much lower than nowdays that i got this big and sharp axe"

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    Diablo armor looks more like this

    carnaval (open)


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    Than a actual armor. Seriously. Look to D3's armor
    d3 armor (open)

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  16. KeighnMcDeath Scholar

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    Can't we mod this to be Diablo 5?
     
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  17. TheSentinel Arcane

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    Posting JimQuisition should lead to an immediate IP ban.
     
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  18. Assisted Living Godzilla Arbiter

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    Diablo 3 Necromancer basically looks like Diablo 2 Necromancer, which is like some '80s '90s comic book thing which is what a lot of Blizzard stuff looks like. You could say he's gaudier in D3, but the bone armor with big bone shoulder pads are right out of D2, and his other armors more or less fall in line with that.
     
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  19. Sykar Arcane

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    But that is as gaudy as it would get. Meanwhile in D3:
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    Because MORE is better than LESS and AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE is better than MORE!

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  20. OctavianRomulus Educated

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    I'm glad you brought up Dark Souls because I think it has a lot in common with Diablo, especially visually.

    Yes, I do think Diablo is supposed to be more realistic and that armor is a great example but I don't think this specific comparison is fair because aside from the first picture from each set, what Blizzard linked was likely high tier armor while the armor you linked is early-mid tier armor.

    A more fair comparison for the armors linked would be the Havel Set, which wouldn't look out of place even in Diablo 3. In order for Diablo 4 to look and feel realistic the most important thing is to make the early and mid tier armors look realistic, just like Dark Souls did. If they do this the armor as a whole will feel realistic because it would be armor a real knight would actually wear.

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    The first armor sets from the three links are quite realistic, or at least something that could exist in real life, if you stretch the limits of reality a bit (which Diablo always did). They wouldn't feel out of place in Dark Souls or the Witcher. The first Druid armor looks like something out of Witcher 3, which is considered to be realistic fantasy. Even the high tier armors look like they would fit as high tier Dark Souls armor, and that's a good thing.

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  21. S0rcererV1ct0r Savant

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    Havel set is unrealistic BUT
    • No open parts
    • The areas that needs more "articulations" has less armor
    • Is rarely used mainly on PvP because offers little mobility
    • Is often used by guys with SUPERHUMAN physical attributes
    Completely different than the carnavalesque design of D3.

    Also, you have SOME sets that are ludicrous on dark souls. On wow/d3, every piece of armor is awful.
     
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  22. OctavianRomulus Educated

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    That was my point. As long as the early to mid-tier armor sets are realistic or at least close to realistic, they can get more crazy with the higher tier armor, which are very different from D3. They look more like Dungeons and Dragons armor.

    The D3 art is very good but inappropriate for D3. That's why people hate it but the quality is there. I've come to like it over the years but it didn't look like Diablo.

    Finally, more flamboyant armor did exist in real life and was rare. Legendary and Unique items are rare in Diablo 4 so the way they look does make sense. Have a look. These were actually used in combat, not ceremonial afaik. Nothing on the level of D3 but you get the point.

    https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-weirdest-and-fiercest-helmets-from-the-age-of-armor-510686611

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  23. Nathir Learned

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    That's actually what you would find in Dark Souls, but never in D3.
     
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  24. OctavianRomulus Educated

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    The sets in Diablo 3 are a mixed bag. This one is quite great imo and it wouldn't be out of place in Dark Souls at all.. Wish it had more realistic-ish armors like this. D4 probably will though.

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