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Diablo meets Monkey Island

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by serch, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. Kingston Arcane

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    That link doesn't actually point to the game there, Jasede, so there's no point in taking it off. And if you checked you'd see its ESA protected status on the site aswell, so you can't download it. You're on hyperbitch mode again.
     
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  2. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Again? I am always in hyperbitch mode. Okay okay, sorry.
     
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  3. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    All games that are ESA protected can't be downloaded from abandonia. Thought it was set free as abandonware by Lucas Arts somewhen during last year. But maybe my memory fooled me.

    Anyways, if it's not abandonware, get Monkey Island on another way. Like, buy it, or something. It's just too good a game to not have played. And Monkey Island 2, which is my favourite of all MIs. Heck, my favourite Lucas Arts adventure of all of them!
     
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  4. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Honestly? I couldn't get into MI 1. :/

    But 2, I love 2. I think it's because I grew up with 2, never having played one until I was old and grey.
     
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  5. onemananadhisdroid Augur

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    The first chapter in Monkey Island is so well set up, it makes far too many things Adventure Gaming (capital A, capital G) out there look like the cookie cutter, by the numbers Adventure Games (capital A, capital G, again) design it is. Like, places that so obviously serve as nothing but a trash dump for you to pick up random crap so that you can later scratch yer head over that one "use item x on item y" operation the designer deemed workable in order to yaddayadda are we feeling bored yet?

    MI's "The three trials" part has you: hunting for a treasure, sneaking after oldish grumpy men through forests at night and beating the crap out of plenty sea dogs in a really, really amusing way. The only game being even MORE piratey than this is Sid Meier's Pirates!, as unexpected as that may seem. Arrrr matey!


    There were like two very brief, simplish fighting sequences in a game that has you hours listening to audio and solving puzzly stuff in between, so where's the Diablo part in that? That being said, Sanitarium reminded me quite a bit of Veil Of Darkness myself.
     
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  6. nik2008ofs Scholar

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    Whatever you were on when you were playing Sanitarium, cut back on something milder, like heroin or cocaine....
     
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  7. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    While 1 is awesome in itself and has a shitload of charme, Monkey 2 takes all of that and raises it to a factor of ten. Monkey Island 2 is just amazing, the humor is great, the riddles are nice and some of them pretty hard to find out, and the art is just beautiful. Heck, I still think Monkey 2 has the best graphics ever. As second best graphics right after Monkey Island 2 I'd rate Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, though, so it might just be because I generally enjoy pretty hand-drawn graphics with lovely details. Oh, and slight pixelation is a good thing. Really.
     
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  8. Imbecile Arbiter

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    Both awesome games, though 2,s ending was just a little too bizarre for its own good, and needed to be explained (and mocked) in 3 - which was still a good game. Played it recently and the graphics still hold up today. Gotta love the theme tune too.
     
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  9. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    The ending of MI2 was lame. The first game is the best one in the series although 2 was very good nevertheless
     
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  10. 1eyedking Erudite

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    Will I be repeatedly clubbed to death if I say MI3 was actually very good as well?
     
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  11. Castanova Prophet

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    Nah. MI3 was my favorite (maybe because it was the first one I played?). I loved them all (except the substandard MI4, of course) but I thought that MI2 had some needlessly difficult puzzles which detracted from my general enjoyment.
     
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  12. Destroid Arcane

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    If you can't buy it new, it is abandoned. Really I couldn't give a shit about technical legality when there is no possibility of consequence (not to mention 2nd hand sales don't do shit to help your precious developers anyway).

    EDIT: Crap a whole new page appeared while I was looking for places to buy monkey island and writing this post :S

    Also, Monkey Island owns.
     
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  13. gromit Arcane

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    I'm surprised you can't find it, Lucasarts used to be fairly notorious for keeping their old stuff bundled together, though maybe "notorious" isn't the right word as they weren't just full of random junk as per the standard pub-dump "variety pack."

    Oh, wow, nevermind, their "PC Windows" page is depressing now. Luckily it's short, or I'd be feeling pretty down. Googling "lucasarts collection" is funny.
     
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  14. 1eyedking Erudite

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    The fucking monkey wrench. The fucking literal monkey wrench.

    (you gotta admit the pun was funny, though)
     
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  15. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    I enjoyed MI 4, actually, it was a good adventure game, but pretty bad as a MI game. And the story was so fucked up, it screwed the lore of the previous games even more than Oblivion did with Elder Scrolls.
     
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  16. Longshanks Augur

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    Agreed, so many exaggerate the minimal, simple, no cost for failure action sequences of Sanitarium out of all proportion. I don't think the sequences were great, but I'm certainly not against Adventure game developers adding non-traditional elements to their games, as so many Adventure's, particularly modern heavy dialogue ones almost completely lack gameplay.

    The usual uninspired design model of talk to people, collect stuff, complete some puzzles while following an "amazing story", only works if the interactions and story are truly compelling and puzzles provide some fun as there's little else to the game. Most modern Adventure's are very weak on the puzzle aspect, too heavy on the non-interactive dialogue aspect and try to be too smart with the story, and most are complete crap.

    With Ron Gilbert involved (definitely able to create games with compelling story and character interactions), and an attempt to add some extra gameplay, this game could be one to watch. Though, I'm not sure that adding Diablo-like combat (or combat of any kind) is the answer to an improved Adventure game.
     
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  17. onemananadhisdroid Augur

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  18. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    For all lucasarts games ( and some others) , use the scumm emulator.
     
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