Dirt(derp?)3...

So I demoed this and it's far better than the previous Dirt games. They finally got rid of that tedious trailer that you have to go to everytime you want to select something else and fucked off that 'gnarly, rad, funky, backward baseball cap' presentation of the last Codemasters games. The actual racing has got the biggest overhaul though; rallying is again the main thing in this series rather than that hybrid crap that was in the GRID series as well. Game's returning to it's roots somewhat(as much as an arcade racer can) and for any casual racing fans it's probably the best Codies racer for a long while.

 

What about other immersion enhancing features? Do you spend more time listing to not possible to skip dialogues, and watching tour over the map then playing like in Dirt 2?

 

Oh they got rid of all that shit mostly, no crappy ex-skater's or BMX'ers with cringeworthy congratulations and threats to make you feel like a fucking retard for playing(apart from the initial VO explaining features the first time you enter some option screen). No shitty maps, no tour bus trailer, no wacky videos of cars flying through the air, fireworks exploding. Even the intro is as basic and restrained as you could imagine.

They must have really got a backlash from people that just wanted to fucking race without retarded shit in their faces, or they lacked the money to put it in this time. Either way, proper racing fans profit from this.

There are still funky presentation things here and there, but it's NOTHING compared to Dirt 2, GRID 1/2, or even Race Driver 3. It's more along the lines of Colin 2005.

 

Does it still use shit for windows live for multiplayer. I remember that I got the first derp from a bundle with my GFX and after 2 hours trying to register an account to play online I just gave up...

 

Is Nicky Grist/anyone from this side of the Atlantic reading the pace notes? And are they delivered quickly enough? Think I raged at the speed of the notes before the myriad other reasons dirt 2 sucked made it uninstall time.(steering wheel causes an infinite loop when you try to change car setup)

See, didn't even rage, not a single rant about that fucking pasty faced faggot amateur skateboarding stunt driver fuckbag shitting up the noble art of rallying with his self promoting staged stunt driving bullshit.

 

It's like saying: "it's far better than shit". Well, maybe but it doesn't mean it's even good. There are plenty amazing racing games, why bother with next-gen nonsense. But then again - it's your choice - and I didn't played the game so don't mind me.

I don't know if this is in game but:
I hate games where you can't skip these movies with producers, etc. at the beginning of a game every time you decide to run it. After watching at least 3 companies that presents to you this awesome game, they tell you what game's icon you just clicked twice - and it's on your screen for about infinity.
For fuck's sake - is it for retards? Excuse me - but how target of these kind of games are capable of turning computer on?

 

So no one else is having crash problems? It crashes after each race for me, sometimes even right after launching.

 

It is what it is. It's better than the other games and is an ok casual rally game, closer to the last CMcRae's before they went next gen. Do pray tell of all the other good racing games out there because I don't know of any. Simbin just releases the same shit over and over and you can't just sit down and have a go with it's uber realism. r-Factor? Some good mods there, but it's pretty soulless. RBR I've already played to death, same with RC2000(my favorite rally game with proper length stages). TOCA Touring Cars 2 and F1 99-02 are old and crusty, still a lot of fun, but again, I've played them to death. As for my favorite, rallying, about the only decent rally game to have come out recently is the low budget WRC2010.

They ditched the unskippable intro crap as well.

The notes seem to be read ok, just a bit slow here and there when there's a lot of hazards in a short period of time. Don't think it's Nicky G, just some dude and some bitch.

Oh and you're entitled to rage at the skateboarding faggot. Ken faggot Block is here promoting his faggot shit. Luckily you can ignore that crap and he doesn't show up anywhere else. It's funny to see a pile of crap like that here as he's fucking hopeless as a proper WRC driver and that's why it makes me laugh to see such a clown in game.

Yes it uses the same shit.

Not crashing for me at the moment.

 

It really depends what type of "racing game" you want. Arcade or realistic, rally or just simple racing, relatively new or classic?
I have a great time with GT Legends (yeah, I know it's from SimBin) - I've played it on keyboard (hardcore ) with all helps off (except anti-lock brakes and traction control on low) and it was simply awesome.
What mods have you tried for rFactor? How can you call it "soulless"? Listen to that beast. Here is another amazing video from mod "HistorX" for rFactor.

And there are more amazing mods.

If you want me to recommend a racing game for you, you must at least tell me what do you expect, because term "racing game" is really diverse. Then I will reply.

EDIT:

I see we have the same opinion on Ken Block.

 

I mostly like a middle ground between a sim and arcade when it comes to racing games. Dirt 2 so far has been the most enjoyable at that for me, despite the annoying menus. Never liked full sims, but can sometimes have great fun with full arcades, like Burnout Paradise or Flatout Ultimate Carnage. I hope I'll get to enjoy Dirt 3 soon when I figure out how to get rid of crashes. Although if it's really mostly focused on rally I might not like it. Never was much into rally.

Exactly the type of shit that bores me to death. I guess it's meant for people who are really interested in cars. I'm not one of them.

 

It looks to be a pretty good one.

More rallying, less americanism.

I was looking forward to Dirt3 and so far it doesn't disappoint.

Come on man, don't be such a skyway. Not every game should be like GTR2.

And Dirt series are quite good arcade racers.

 

No, I would be stupid to think that "arcade" game should be realistic. And one more thing: If I don't like Dirt it doesn't mean I automatically hate arcade games and I'm a simulatorfag (with keyboard ). I love arcade racing games too.
I've just reminded myself very good arcade racing game that was realeased in 2010 - Split Second: Velocity. Great fun. I guess you know it anyways.

 

Eh dude. Split Second is like all hollywood-ish explosions and no gameplay.

 

That made my coffee come out of my nose. Thanks.

 

So would you guys say Dirt is a good entry-level pseudo-sim racing series? Never been a big fan of racing games, but lately I've been itching to play one. NFS: Shift looked pretty cool too.

 

I tried to play some NFS Shift but it just seemed like a shittier version of GRID for me. Similar gameplay (I suppose), but looks and runs worse. So I suggest GRID instead of Shift, or Dirt 2 if you are looking for more variety. Can't say anything about Dirt 3 yet, sadly. Those fucking personal computers and their mysterious crashes..

Yep, some self-irony can never hurt, especially around here.

 

So you're telling that in Dirt there is "gameplay" and in Split Secong there isn't?
In Dirt you only race cars in Split Second you race cars AND you can trigger some kind of "accidents" AND there are few kinds of challanges.

 

Like multidirectional I'm half and half regarding game preferences. What this means is that I like the illusion of realism in my racing without going all out with exact physics and shit. I want a F1 car to handle differently to Renault Clio, but I don't want such crushing realism that I can barely keep the former on a track. Same as with flight sims, I prefer survey sims that give a good approximation of flying particular aircraft without the mind numbing hard work of pressing 20 keys just to start an engine or switching radar modes. The reason is partly the time investment needed(I don't have the time to spend weeks learning how to get around a track when I just want to race), and partly because you just don't get the situational awareness and sensory cues that you would have in real life to actually make driving easier. I like driving cars, but don't obsess over them. For me the ULTIMATE middle ground was probably the Rally Championship 2000/Colin Mcrae 4,5/ TOCA 2 Touring cars games; games which were realistic enough, cockpit view and all, without either going full derp or totally anal.

Having said all that, that HistorX mod for rFactor looks fucking sweet. Love vintage racing.

 

Yeah it's pretty good.

Mind you don't expect anything even close to the simulation of RBR or GTR2 here but the car behaviour (or you can call it physics) and damage are relatively realistic (you can completely destroy the car in a race too)

Dirt 3 has more focus on rallying now so if spending more time racing against the clock and fapping to a nice designed euro-levels is up your alley - then yeah it's worth it.

Just make sure you have a gamepad or a steering wheel. From a keyboard it's very uncomfortable to play, unlike most NFS'es

I'm saying that I enjoy actually driving the car that has weight and acceleration which adds to the fun of driving - not just holding the gas pedal while driving something that feels like a plastic toy and the main gameplay element is watching for signs where you can blow up the same stuff for a 100th time.

Tracks in Split Second get old after the first lap or two. And when you are tired of watching nice looking explosions there is nothing left to do in the game.

Dirt3 is an arcade about you versus the track and no fluff.

 

You should definitely try this. Besides if you don't want a full simulator you can turn on some options like traction control, anti-lock brakes on high, etc. Then I think it would be perfect mix of arcade/sim. There are also very similar mods for rFactor to ToCA and there are also some mods with rallying stuff.

To be honest I don't know that much racing games which are arcade/sim mix. I know a lot which are pure arcade or pure sim so I'm afraid I can't recommend you much games in that matter. But when I'll remind some worthy of mentioning arcade/sim game I will edit this post.

@MetalCraze

You do realize there are some differences between pure arcade and arcade with some elements of realism, right? First one is Split Second, second one is Dirt. It depends which one you want to play at the moment.
You can't blame Split Second for it's lack of realism, because it's a pure arcade...
Otherwise if you like to play Dirt more than Split it doesn't automatically means it sucks.

 

I've never blamed Split Second for its lack of realism.
I blamed it for repetitiveness and zero substance behind the explosions that happen in preset places that you learn very quick with cars being too easy to drive (and I don't mean in a "realistic" way)

If we are to go full arcade I'd rather be talking about Pure from the same devs which cares about laws of physics much much less and flying nose down from a high mountain gets old much slower than "ah and here the crane will hit my car again" of S/S

 

BRO COULD YOU KEEP YOUR CONSOLEFAG BULLSHIT ON A CONSOLEFAG FORUM THANKS

FUCKING BROS LIKE YOU RUINING GAMING

 

Like I said, I'm not too keen on racing games, so I don't have a wheel and I don't plan on buying one anytime soon. Still worth it? If not, can you guys recommend me some good arcadey sims that play alright with the keyboard?

 

You don't even own a cheap-ass gamepad? I bought one back in 2007 for a price that is less than a gram of weed to play Resident Evil 4 and Psychonauts and it still serves me fine for these racing games. I wouldn't even want a wheel, considering space it takes up. Controller just for one genre seems way too faggy for me anyway.

 

Haven't had a need for one really, as I actually got a decent gaming rig just a couple of months ago. Before that I just played old strategy games and RPGs. You're right though. I really should buy a gamepad.