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Incline Disco Elysium - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Zero Credibility, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. Owlish Arcane

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    It's an alright clickable comic book thing with phony baloney choices.
     
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  2. Life of the Party Arcane

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  3. Multi-headed Cow Cipher

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    I haven't seen/heard of Moralintern's symbol, or if I have I've forgotten it. What day does that show up? I'm still in day 3 with Harry "Erich Zann" Du Bois.
     
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  4. Life of the Party Arcane

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    The balcony chat at the end of day one.
     
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  5. Multi-headed Cow Cipher

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    Guess I completely missed it then, since I don't remember that even being mentioned or it just flew out of my mind.
     
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  6. Hellion Cipher

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    Regarding the Hardie boys, at my "best" playthrough so far
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    only 3 of them die during the shoot-out, and the leader who survived seems pretty glad about that outcome when you come round 2 days later.
    But I'll definitely keep in mind to check and see if you can do better than that.
     
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  7. Popiel Magister Patron

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    I guess to do better than that you would need to avoid the 3% shot. It's mathematically possible, or game lies.
     
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  8. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    Should spoiler this tbh. Regardless, would be nice to get developer confirmation. Would be a damn shame if the game is lying Kasparov
     
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  9. hivemind Liturgist Patron Pretty Princess

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    >capitalist games
    full of bugs
    conceptually stale
    the codemmonkeys that made it hate their 12 hours saturday crunch jobs
    all the money goes to buy the publisher CEO a new yacht

    >commie games
    highest level of polish imaginable
    artistic and innovative
    made by a team of artists who love the product and feel no alienation from their labour
    money gets reinvested into a sequel

    Which way, codex comrades?
     
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  10. Magnat Arcane Vatnik

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    National bolshevism, comrade.
     
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  11. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    I think there’s a lot more give in the tribunal than what I’ve seen—I’ve only run through it a few times because it’s so intense—but the biggest variation I’ve found so far is
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    what happens to Kim: whether he’s fine or he ends up in the hospital.


    When I replayed it going in with more information, I seemed to get further with the mercs, but
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    all my extra talking just gave me a bunch of bonuses to the shoot-him-in-the-face check and also gave one of the Hardies enough time to run away, which he didn’t do in my other playthrough (where he stuck around and survived).


    I haven’t gone in with the horrific necktie equipped yet and I’m feeling like that was a mistake. Or maybe if I
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    arrested Miss Oranje Disco Dancer I’d be able to convince them she was the real culprit.


    ***

    I cannot find the words for how much I love the end, especially the atmosphere created by the incredible music from the tribunal on.

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    The tribunal is the climax and then everything after it is like a coda. I saw a lot of PS:T here—the boat ride is like hopping in the portal to the fortress of regrets (with better music).

    My first run I beelined for the boat, but in my latest one I caught up with the NPCs who stuck around and talked to them about what happened (sort of like post-game wandering around in other RPGs except it’s actually done well).

    After the deliberate gut punch of an anticlimax with the shooter—I really enjoyed getting him to confess and his story was very interesting, but it’s obvious he’s supposed to make you feel like 99% of your murder investigation was a waste of time and the tribunal never needed to happen—meeting the phasmid was perfect. Possibly my favorite moment in any game ever. Kurvitz played me like a goddamned fiddle. One second I was full of despair that everything was such a waste, and then he’s got me practically weeping with joy when the most quixotic quest in the game pays off in the craziest way possible. Even knowing it’s coming on repeat playthroughs, it remains a sublime moment.

    My phasmid believed in class struggle (I assume because I was a commie cop):

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    Right here at the end of the interaction, the phasmid goes from somber/serious/heartfelt to funny in a snap. The timing is magnificent. Just perfectly caps off the whole interaction.

    “She was middle class. It doesn’t take a three-metre stick insect to tell you that.”

     
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  12. Lithium Flower Arcane

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    You can't. Apparently there are a handful checks which are impossible to succeed and it is one of them.
     
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  13. Lithium Flower Arcane

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    Kyl Von Kull
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    I absolutely agree with you regarding the coda - the whole "anticlimactic end to detective story" thing is pretty popular in the more cynical examples of the genre, but it really worked for me this time, and the phasmid conversation was a fantastic shift of tone that really capped off the experience on a good note. However, if that is all the variation that there is in the tribunal, I will be very disappointed indeed. Mostly because the lack of variation there combined with the fact that the game deliberately keeps you from figuring the mystery out early kind of makes it seem like they tried too hard to funnel you into this very specific set up. This would be easier to stomach had the game not been so good in terms of reactivity up to that point.

    Hmm. Maybe if you do *all of the things* right - arrest the disco dancer, talk ruby out of killing herself, get the black blade and the elusive medicinal spirit - we can unlock the real ending...
     
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  14. Prime Junta Tinker Patron Vatnik

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    This thread's getting too spoilery for my blood, I'll be dropping out of it until I've finished the game. If you need me, tag me. :salute:
     
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  15. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    I'm working my way to the end of Day 1 now (jesus christ, what happened, there's still so many i haven't talked to!), so my strategy might change, but I like spending points fast, just so be sure that I'll pass dialogue thresholds for having them chime in.
     
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  16. Magnat Arcane Vatnik

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    See you around, detective.
     
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  17. Same here. Have fun, kiddos.
     
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  18. hivemind Liturgist Patron Pretty Princess

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    literally incel cope
     
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  19. Magnat Arcane Vatnik

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    Limonov's brand certainly, but we're going off-topic. Lets keep the shit in shitposting. :^)
     
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  20. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    I’m hopeful, but
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    yeah it would suck if Kim is the only major variable (not that Detective Pinball’s health isn’t important. Did you ever hear about his secret nickname?).

    There are a ton of different permutations going into the tribunal. It wouldn’t surprise me if they made it very hard to get out of that situation peacefully—it should be hard. Maybe you need to equip the alcohol and a cigarette for a Molotov cocktail rather than a weapon. Maybe knowing about the third man will give you an edge—I’ll test that today now that I know failing the red check with Ruby gives you that info.


    But if I’m wrong, that would be my biggest gripe with the game. Currently my biggest gripe with Disco is
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    the Shivers check to get into the FELD building. I think that’s the only way in, although you can do a bunch of side quests to make it much, much, much easier.


    PS. If you set your electrochemistry at 1, you only get 3 hits from most drugs.
     
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  21. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    I think it's funny how Kim interjects with the usual SocJus fare, citing statistics that are frequently manipulated in the real world already, and - just like real SocJus Doubleplusgoods - completely misses the point. Neither Réne or You suggested that women can't perform the same RCM duties as men, but that they perhaps shouldn't.

    Not having had the conversation, I can only assume that you never get a chance to point this out, even with high rhetorics?
     
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  22. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    You get a chance to share a look with Rene and grumble about Kim's stupidity I believe. At the very least, Rene calls him a retard.
    Yep, agree with both your points. Who knows, we'll see.
     
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  23. ItsChon Resident Zoomer Patron

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    My bad, no idea why it did that.
     
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  24. pelepele Barely Literate

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    Is going 1 PSY gonna cripple my run?
     
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  25. Lady Error █▓▒░ ░▒▓█ Patron Literally Hitler

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    Well, it is a great game, but a bit short at 20-30 hours - unless you want to replay with a different build and act like a crazy mofo.
     
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