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Divinity Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition

Discussion in 'Larian Studios' started by Lacrymas, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Day 6 is about Larian's nightmare and zapping: http://divinity.game/en/zap


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    Under the elf's Elbow. Zoom in. :M
     
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  2. Lacrymas Arcane

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    They can't do everything, yet hired 4 VO studios. D:OS2 is nowhere close to BG1's budget (estimated around 5 million), a more realistic budget is around 30 - 40 million (maybe, but it's definitely a lot more than BG1). Trust me, having day and night cycles is so trivial and shallow that nobody would've noticed. It wasn't due to lack of budget, Swen has said multiple times that he wants the cycles to matter in gameplay.
     
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  3. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    The article I read said it didn't sell well enough for them to fund it themselves, and no publishers wanted to take them on. So it was Kickstart again or nothing.
    So why not do more with DoS2?
     
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  4. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Do what? People are already complaining it feels too long, which is never a good sign. Adding more stuff on top isn't the way to go.
     
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  5. imweasel Guest

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    There is no way that D:OS 2 had a budget of 30 - 40 million dollars. Not even close. That is upper AAA territory.
     
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  6. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Upper? These days closer to lower.

    I don't think it was that high but IMO 10-20 million is a possibility.

    But anyway the reason anvi's posts are dumb is because the features he thinks are missing have nothing to do with budget. Larian have all the money they need and the reason they made the game this way is because they wanted to.
     
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  7. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Speaking of... new Swen Vincke interview about the future of Larian: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-12-06-people-of-the-year-2017-larian-studios

    - He values negative opinions. "'Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good review, but, did you see they pointed out that?' It's all about how to do better for the next game."

    - He doesn't think D:OS 2 to be the best RPG of the decade. He expects that to be the next one.

    - The next game (Original Sin III?) may be the first game which Larian doesn't need to bet everything.

    - He thinks he can grow their audience further than right now.

    - "But we have a budget for our next game, and we're going to stick to it. At the same time, we're going to try and learn from our mistakes, because there's a whole bunch of things that we could have done differently and better, and avoided wastage in development."


     
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  8. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    I think that was said in a tongue-in-cheek spirit.

    Although who knows, maybe that'll be Swen's Ultimate Big RPG.
     
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  9. Elex Arbiter

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    i bet is going to be “divinity original sin III- totally not the witcher 3”
    direct sequel of divine divinity and prequel of divinity original sin 2

    lucian the divine and damian as playable characters.
     
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  10. imweasel Guest

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    Either that or Call of Divinity: Space Warfare 9000
     
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  11. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Sequel to Divinity 2: DKS.
     
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  12. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    And they will still be making rpg's devoid of a good story, interesting characters and dialogue. I think Sven is to blame, they hire new people to write, to voice, and still it ends up being shit, i bet he goes around with his quirky sense of humor, trying to be funny, trying to finally make a game that he thinks is as funny as himself, never realizing that neither he or his games are particularly funny.
     
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  13. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    stop the lies, start the truths, the above was all perfectly fine in larian games up until dos1
     
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  14. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Each game after DivDiv had more and more humour crammed in. The culmination was D:OS, a game which didn't know what tone it wants to convey, and the humour was very childish, like it was literally written for children. I don't understand what they are going for or why they are doing whatever it is they are doing.

    The humour isn't the problem, the problem is that it comes at the expense of coherent characters, understandable motivations and an interesting plot.
     
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  15. Elex Arbiter

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    HAHA LE FUNNY dog npc for the children and 5 minutes later your character is in flame on pool of elettrified blood.
     
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  16. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    The features list was not mine, it was someone else, dummy. The only ones I said would be worth having are day night cycle and world map, both of which most classic RPGs had and for good reason. And every feature requires more budget, otherwise it is taking away from something else. If Larian had all the money they need, they would have made it look like Witcher 3. The only reason you vote my posts dumb is because you vote all my posts dumb, because you and Jaeson are morons who got butthurt so deeply at something I called you out on about 10 months ago.
     
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  17. Iznaliu Arbiter

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    They could've scaled down their ambitions to produce a near-AAA level game and worked on something smaller; a Kickstarter wasn't really that necessary for anything other than containing Swen's excessive ambition.
     
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  18. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    I can live with him having excessive ambition in a world of gaming that has none.
     
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  19. unfairlight Self-Ejected

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    If this was anything to go by then his next game will be shit.
     
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  20. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Also here's Day 7 comic of the Advent Calendar, it's about Larian writers' wet dreams: http://divinity.game/en/diadem

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    A wing of the dragon inside the GM's monitor.
     
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  21. Lacrymas Arcane

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    I found a plot hole in that comic - the undead is sleeping.
     
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  22. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    Has anyone been saving the booty from this live event bullshit they've got going on? I stop paying attention for like 5 minutes, and I miss out on shit because Larian decided to be humongous faggots.
    I like the game, but I agree. If they continue in this general direction, the next game will be shit. The worst thing is that they don't even seem to realize what they did wrong, and they probably think that they shit gold, so they'll probably set the course down the casualization lane until the game(s) have been so generalized and streamlined that not even the popamole crowd gets a rise out of it.
     
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  23. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Persona 5 won the Best RPG award. And Swen sent his salt congratz to a wrong tweet:



    Now he's trapped in LA:



    I guess, next time we see him, he became the latest Holloywood hotshot.


    Anyway, Day 8 comic:

     
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  24. Black Arcane

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    As long as they don't come from the vocal minority.
     
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  25. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
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    On the grass to the left of Rogue in the third panel
     
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