Don't be the problem, be the solution: Don't preorder shitgames.

Korporate Kock Kontracts.

 

There's something fishy going on in the big world of gaming.

Probably the biggest catastrophe is yet to come.

 

Most people don't discuss games, and don't care of others people opinions about what they are playing. Right now ACM are like a boy that can be beaten in the corner and no one will care, but if you dare to smack some other A+ game there will be blood, your blood. If someone didn't care to watch gameplay and gain some infos on their own and they blindly doing day 1 preorder that's their fault. Maybe it's drop that hollows rock, but the train will probably return to it's rails sooner or later.

 

The so-called maturity of the gaming community is a bit of a foolery. The only major differences are :
1. Skyrim and Minecraft (with their crafting and survival and hunting shticks) are the standards now rather than cinematic action games and WoW
2 Shallow artsy games (that existed before as well) are given more attention (see Spec Ops, Journey, The Walking Dead).

This is not very different to the beginning of this generation when everyone and their mother was tired of "WW2 SHOOTER NAZI ARE SO CLICHE" and casual gaming was saving the industry left and right.

I wouldn't say that the industry is "maturing". In the end, Obsidian still got less than 100k people to pledge for Project Eternity (out of the tens of millions that are into gaming right now, that is). It's just a minor progress that will probably be followed by even a deeper fallout.

 

Kching! And man how many of those are on this forum... Thank Blizzard for World of Whorecraft for that. Also Call of Poopy and Free to play braindead Asia

 

Insert image where I post your kick ass Steam game list with amazing hits like Call of Duty 4, Napoleon Total War, Endless Space, and other amazing classics!

 

I never pre-order, in fact i make it a rule (that i try and sometimes fail miserably to follow) to never buy anything without first trying the demo. It irks me that a lot of games don´t release demos pre-launch.

 

The only game I have ever pre-ordered was Witcher 2. And Kickstarter games, but I don't know if that is equivalent.

 

The only "preorder" I'd do is pledging in a Kickstarter campaign.
I see no point in pre-ordering normally developed games though. The only advantages (slightly lowered price and pre-loading) pale in comparison to the relatively large chance of buying some overpriced shit game.
And ironically I can get most games for the same price or even a bit cheaper directly after release if I buy at local retailers.

 

I only preorder if there is some benefit to doing so and I absolutely KNOW I want the game on launch day, due to developer track record, extensive walkthroughs or series loyalty. In the past few years this equates to Skyrim and Deus Ex 3 I think... can't remember another one.

I would preorder Bioshock Infinite if there was a good reason to.

 

I would also say NES, SNES and PS1 kids learning what a Western game was, as far as Oblivion and such.

 

Kickstarter is more patronage than pre-ordering.

 

I don't know if I can handle all of this irony.

 

Not sure what you mean. These were full of western games. You probably mean western RPGs, which were indeed rare in consoles.

 

An audience brought up on oldschool Jap RPGs would be fundamentally uninterested in anything not turn-based.

The Western game that made the biggest cultural impression there (and still continues to) is Wizardry.

 

Most Final Fantasies are not turn based.

 

While they're technically not turn based ("Action Time Battle"), they're nothing like Oblivion's real time either. They're also all party-based.

 

I was a NES and SNES kid who transitioned to the PC around 1994. I really think Final Fantasy VII was the game that made a lot of people who normally would have transitioned to "adult" games on the PC stick with consoles instead. Then the Xbox brought PC genres and franchises to consoles and really started the decline in earnest.

Now we're all a big happy family enjoying the decline together.

Well, until the PC reestablished itself as different over the last couple years (in my opinion).

 

I've seen many pre Xbox console gamers who believe the west never put out RPGs, or any good RPGs, before KOTOR. You've probably seen them too. They're the ones who go on about how all western RPGs are action games, because they are ignorant of what has come before or was not covered in EGM or PSM. They say things like "the rise of WRPGs/western developed games." Some of them are now Biowhores . Little do they know they're not getting the cream, but the sediment that falls to the bottom. And this is acceptable in gaming circles. If someone went on to a cinema forum and claimed that "Sci-fi movies were only good after the Matrix/Japan never made movies before Ichi The Killer" they'd get corrected with the swiftness.

Then you have the people who only got into gaming because OMG HALO IZ LIKE MOVIEE/DID U SEE THAT HED EXPLODE IN FALOUT3?!!! can't handle abstraction, or gameness. I call these people the Xbox Generation.

(The Wii casuals -and I mean casuals, not core gamers/N fanboys who bought a Wii)- are pretty harmless. They don't get on message boards and claim falsehood as gospel)

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I fucking loath Oblivion. But I can't blame someone who has never played video games before or was trapped in JRPG ville for being impressed by the scope and freedom. The problem is when they make declarations of quality or best evar, and the outright dishonest reviews that were given. Really, Oblivion is "revolutionary?" So revolutionary means doing generally the same thing as previous ES games did, but with even less detail and options?

On a side note, it strikes me as ingenuous all the praise for Skyrim's "freedom", "scale", and " you can play how you want." They say this as if it's a new thing worthy of astonishment and adulation, like they didn't say that about the last couple of ES. They're trying real hard to rewrite or gloss over the historical record for the benefit of every new game from the accepted companies.

 

anyone have statistics on pre-order sales and age of people who preorder them? Intuition tells me that a majority of people who preorder games are under 15 barring the occasional nostalgic adult

 

Not that anyone really knows what is a codexian game.

 

Ok I admit, I pre-ordered Skyrim.

But, I don't get defensive over criticism about the game. That shit is stupid.