Don't be the problem, be the solution: Don't preorder shitgames.

In both ways, I enjoy their games support the company. Both of us win (meaning the company and me).

 

I have bought several games day one that I admitted were not worth it. Oblivion, Dungeon Siege 3, Bioshock 2 and Dragon Age 2 spring immediately to mind. I do think some have the childlike mentality to defend every decision they ever made as amazing but I wouldn't say that counts for all or even the majority of humanity.

Well, maybe the majority.

 

It does.

See?

 

The only game that I have pre-ordered (besides kickstarter donations, which I expect to have wasted the money) was Fallout: New Vegas and glad for doing so, because Obsidian.

 

Only game I pre-ordered was Sword of the Stars II, which looked like serious incline.

What they forgot to tell us was that they didn't finish the game at launch and are still patching and fixing it. Verdammte juden, corrupting our grorious Volk mit their lies

 

This Total Halibut fellow seems to oppose paying for something he hasn't played first, so what does he think of Kickstarter?

 

hey assface dont talk shit about total "the cynikal brot" halibut i will fuk u

 

Preordered only TWicher 2 although after tenth patch game crashes a lot, Played enough to have my potatoes back and got marble Geralt Head on my Fireplace, along with Napoleons and Lenins busts collection. Also I patronage games which would not be made otherwise by gynofagocracy which populates Publisher firms and Developer studios: AoD, Starsector, Expedition Conquistador, Eisenwald to name the few. You want to make original game which not appeal to unsexed Wymyn, 12 years old Kwan kids, fur-fags and is not sequel? Without crowd funding you Forget about it.

 

Considering that kickstarter projects are sequels which have gameplay simplified for 12 years olds and housewives this is especially ironic.

 

I have a very simple piece of advice to all of you: DON'T EVER BUY SHIT GAMES. There. It's as simple as that. And it's pretty hard to fail at (the only shit games I've ever bought are VtM:Redemption and M&M IX, for example).

 

Way to go, Sky.

Now, tell me about the excellent big publisher games.

 

The concept of pre-ordering is definitely above my understanding. It is pretty much like signing a contract without even reading it. I have never done it in my life, and never will, even though I used to do some day one purchases. Moving my bottom to the store is still a symbolic act I want to do (except now, that, well, Steam is cheaper).

I wholeheartedly agree with TotalBiscuit's video. Pre-ordering makes sense when there is a problem of scarcity : actually, as I write this post, I remember I actually preordered once : Neverwinter Nights. The game was supposed to have only 5000 copies in France at launch, before localization. So I pretty much wanted to be sure I'd get it.

Today ? In the STEAM age ? Besides shouting "I'm a bigger fanboy than you", what does it mean ?

And whoever brought Kickstarter in the discussion is an absolute idiot.

 

Well, genius, the difference between crowd-funding and pre-ordering isn't as obvious as you may think, otherwise no one would have brought it up. We're talking about the difference to the consumer.

 

I have no problem pre-ordering a game I know I'm going to buy anyway. It's just a way to get it as early as possible, and without having parts of it cut out.

 

HATS!

 

The difference to the consumer is that games I want to play get produced.

 

And you don't think you'll want to play games when you pre-order them? Confusing. Kickstarter-produced games don't come with a satisfaction guarantee, either. Crowd-funding means crowd appeasement, or that developer's next project may not get funded. Are you beginning to see how superficial the difference really is? If you quickly scanned the BSN you'd probably be horrified to find out how many times Project Eternity is referenced, for example, as an anticipated title. Now, these are BSN regulars we're talking about, so you can be 200% sure most of them are active on PE's forums, feverishly lobbying for the kind of gameplay *they* want to see (and I think we both know what that is). And as much as I'm sure you'd like to imagine Chris Avellone get on there and tell them to fuck off, it's just not going to happen.

 

Don't be the problem, be the solution: Ignore raw threads.

 

There is no guarantee that a Kickstarter game will be good, but there is a guarantee that it will have the features and gameplay style they advertise : those people's jobs are on the line.
Also, don't you see the difference between paying 15$ a year in advance to make something you like happen, and paying 70$ to get something you'd have anyway even if you didn't preorder it, because shit like that gets mass produced every day?

 

Who shat into your cereals this morning? Joan Collins?

 

I haven't pre-ordered a game since getting completely screwed by Elemental: War of Magic. And so far, I'm glad I haven't.

Well, unless Kickstarter counts.

 

Also, no shit BioWare regulars caught wind of Eternity. That's exactly what the Codex is with its never ending obsessive stalking of BioWare's current disgrace and past glory.

Besides, which is more likely to become insular? A bureaucratic publisher conglomerate that allows another way for consumption, pre-ordering, or a mid to small studio/team that kickstarts their projects?

 

If you are so fucking stupid that you don't know better then to pre-order every dam game that looks shiny and your getting burnt then GREAT!! Morons don't deserve to have money.