DOOM Eternal - the sequel to the 2016 reboot

"I wonder how Doom Eternal is."

*Sees enemy explode into neon pink.*

"I wonder how DOOM 64 is."

 

It's console shit for retards, don't bother.

 

Oh god, they did it... they listened to the exaggerated complaints about glory kills in the first one and said "fuck those guys, let's make them actually required this time." You get 16 fucking bullets at first, and while there's some ammo here and there on the ground you're gonna have to chainsaw shit or you'll constantly run out. You'll also want to glory kill just so you don't have to use more ammo to put enemies down, and (on hard anyway) you'll get hit enough you'll want the health. I got through the first level only dying a couple times, but I had to glory kill pretty routinely to get health. Even if there are health packs around you might not make it to one. Everything you guys insisted was true in the last one, which I didn't think was, is actually true in this one. Decline.

That said, the combat itself is very good, and the game looks great both graphics and art design wise. Runs great too, I'm used to 100+fps nowadays and just set the game on "nightmare" settings and went... runs like a dream.

 

I actually played it for a bit, don't hate it that much.
Did notice how poor the sound design is, for example the zombie trooper's charged attack is completely silent, it probably won't hit you if you keep bouncing around but that's another problem.
Was it silent in 2016 too, I can't remember?

Also you can just insta(glory)kill a cacodemon by shooting a shotgun grenade at it, almost no timing required, that's pretty lame.

 

This isn't a shooter, it's a waltz.

 

Ok guys, tell me why you're upset about the game.

 

So what? sure, you can approach many situations tactically in regards to glory kills, but that's not the point. The point is, the whole mechanic is so fucking boring, it slows down the action and it looks samey and boring. Not a good fit for a fast paced fps game.

 

Personally I am upset because the game forces you to look for zombies in a crowd of demons, so you can use your low fuel chainsaw on them, for the ridiculous looking pinata ammo. Ammo which is really scarce and you run out of very often from what I've seen. Also the fact that gory kills became more of a main mechanic disgusts me. That's not how a shooter is supposed to work. It breaks the pace and it feels too gimmicky.

 

Not necessarily a zombie. The weaker enemies can tear you a new one too and knowing which to chainsaw and when can make the difference between life and death.

 

Pirated copy done downloading, kid going to bed in 15 minutes, will be ready with the reasons why in a couple of hours.

 

Scratch that. The game is such complete ass, it won't even let me load into the menu unless you're on the very latest drivers and I'm not going through 20 minutes of driver updates and reboots just so I can hate more competently on a heap of garbage. Deleted.

 

Yeah, we should get id software to make FPS games.

 

so just like nudoom

 

Yeah, I've beaten two levels now and pretty much agree. They took the kind of annoying but didn't hurt the game much aspect of Doom 2016 and then focused WAY more on it, actually hurting the game a good bit. I'm playing on ultra violence and there's just no way to finish the bigger fights without constantly glory killing for health and frequently chainsawing for ammo. The hell knights do like 80 damage in one hit, so as soon as you get hit once you have to glory kill something for health. As you say, it's obvious the retard zombies waddling around are like mobile ammo and health crates. Reviewers praised the shit out of this system in 2016 so I guess it makes sense they'd amp it up, but I think amping it up makes it waaaay worse.

Also the jumping shit is stupid. It just doesn't belong in a game like this, and is also focused on way too much.

 

Tried the "extended demo", uninstalled after getting tired of seeing the LOW AMMO warning on my screen and walking around looking for small demons to chainsaw. Feels like half the fucking combat is trying to get ammo instead of just playing the actual game. The combat itself is enjoyable (weapons feel better across the board IMO) , but between retarded platforming and constantly looking at glory kill and chainsaw animations, it's not good enough to bother.

 

Here's my review from playing up to the snow level:
They improved some things. For example, the regular shotgun doesn't suck (you'll still never use the primary, but that's because secondary is OP) and the weak enemies are less bullet spongy while the strong ones feel about as tough as they were in NeoDoom1.
They made some things way worse, some weapons being super effective against certain enemies is shit design and using a chainsaw on a weak enemy every now and then isn't particularly interesting. Instead of trimming the fat they added semi-redundant features like the flamefart and doompunch.

And a lot of stuff like the "run in circles while demons spawn randomly around you" encounter design is pretty much the same.

Still better than a regular Halocod shooter but it just makes me want to know when Dusk2 is coming out/10


Also I have no idea why people are complaining about being hit mid-glorykill, I hit that button when in a swarm on nightmare and come out okay 90% of the time.

 

You forgot to mention how the game became a super mario lol

 

Are there not ammo storage upgrades later on? If the whole game is like these early bits it's going to be one miserable experience.

 

I don't know, I like this kind of gameplay. I think it's superior to 2016. I guess I am a sucker for punishment. In one of the games I faced 2 Cyberdemons and about 15 other monsters. When I killed them a Hunter spawned too. Good times.

I think Eternal is the better game but 2016 is the better Doom game due to better exploration and secrets, which at least for me are a huge part of the experience not just because of gameplay reasons but also because they contribute to the atmosphere. If Eternal had better exploration it would have been flatout better.

For me, Ion Maiden is the bar when it comes to exploration. I am quite good at finding secrets in general but I found only like 50% of them. That is what I am hoping for.

 

Platforming? Lmao what is this Metroid: Prime or what

I heard there's also a lot of focus on arena moments in this game so I'll avoid playing it for now. Not my favourite mechanic and there's a other couple of games I want to play instead.

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Like Skyrim

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With Sexlab mods

 

The first upgrade gimmick after weapon upgrades is the health (heh) armor (lol) ammo (pick this one) upgrade mechanic from NuevoDoom1

 

my biggest complaint is the main character's hair is way too dark. he should be dirty blond

 

There is 4 armour upgrade that give max ammo. But the whole ammo is all around scares because of the retarded chainsaw mechanic. At the beginning of the game you can have 12 shotgun shells at max,an upgrade gives you 6 more,so you could end up with 48 max,that is like 24 supershotgun shots. You constantly run around with the low ammo flash light.

The whole game really feels nothing like old doom. The mobility is nice,but retards decided to put up some retarded platforming. Also the whole idea of the game is for you to get from arena to arena and fight respawning mobs without any savegame options. The arenas are like something from quake 3,and the encounter are really fucking cheap because 99% of the times you die is because something spawned behind you and killed you when you were strifing in to it.

The story on the other side is darksiders level of generic garbage. Angels and demons being muh space/universe beings etc etc.

Maybe if the game wasn't called doom,it could have been ok.

 

Chances are pretty high they'll do a first month gameplay patch for all the babbies complaining about scarce ammo.

Excessive platforming sections on the other hand, I have to imagine those are here to stay.