Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

lol what the fuck, goddamn in what other sport do the dickhead fans demand their manfus stick together or else lose all of their cash? I say we go a step further, we should confiscate 100% of the cash from the asian teams, tear up their passports, and break their hands: GO TEAM NAVI WOOOOOH.

 

thats the dumbest idea i've heard all week.

 

Yeah, not a great idea. That sounds like something Riot would do with LoL.

 

horrible, this idea

 

In nearly all other sports the players sign multi-year deals that have specific bonuses and penalties related to their continued presence on that particular team. The result is that people feel loyalty to specific teams in part due to the continued presence of their favorite players. These teams also tend to develop specific strategies related to the personnel on their team, which further particularizes these teams from others. It allows the creation of an "image" which is distinct from other teams in the pool of competitors.

DOTA 2's problem is that very few people outside of the playerbase can identify with teams or playstyles. In order for a sport to work on a spectator level, it needs certain optics which allow for casual and newbie player fans to feel connected to the different teams. As of right now, each individual player leaves whenever he feels like it for whatever reason, and drops team loyalty when it suits his purpose. This does not allow for the development of consistent team play or identifiable signifiers which casual fans can understand. I think the best storyline of TI was Burning's last in 2014 with TDK. Here we had a specific person on a specific team with the specific purpose of wanting to win the title, and that created interesting drama for casual viewers. The more rapid-fire changes in team lineups that occur the less such stories are possible.

 

Digital Chaos

 

The Warhammer chest patch just dropped. The ultra rare set is, I think, this one:

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Eh, not quite

 

I do agree with you, that it would be great if the Pro's didn't leave as often as they do now, but I think it should be up to the specific teams to decide, how they want to do their contracts. I also don't necessarily agree that Dota has a problem with viewers. I guess it depends on how big and casual you want it to be.

 

The difference between Dota and normal sports is that in normal sports people are fans of a team, and in dota people are fans of particular players. There's still a continuity, it's just a different kind. When Secret was brand new, it still had a ton of fans because the players brought them with them

 

And DOTA is a team competition, which means that the more it becomes about the team the better optics will be.

Besides that, I find amazing individual plays that shift competition in DOTA very rare. IceIceIce and Miracle are two notable exceptions to the rule, but almost every successful victory requires team coordination and strategy to be effective at all.

 

People follow players, not teams. The name of the team is unimportant. Introducing penalties and other such administrative nonsense would stagnate the scene by locking good players in shitty teams, like how Ferrari and Dendi are chained to their organization. if you want to see what happens when a company dictates every aspect of their pro scene, look at LOL.

 

Artour is back, boys.

 

Can't stand this nigger rap, though.

 

DOTA is a team game, and the scene will grow substantially when teams are strengthened by more commitment.

LOL is not a fair comparison. It's like comparing softball and baseball.

 

New EternalEnvy team:

http://www.npgame.gg/

 

Aui and EE on the same team is just too much sperg. Plus, Aui is playing carry so they'll never win anything.

 

New rosters:

Team Liquid: https://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2016/09/16/day-three-the-new-tl-dota-2

Alliance: http://thealliance.gg/

MVP.Phoenix: https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/777015079220895744

Newbee: https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/777073600352231424

EG: http://www.evilgeniuses.gg/

EHOME: https://twitter.com/EHOMECN/status/777128881853726720

 

First post-TI lan in about a week.
Will be exciting to see the new teams in action!

 

looking forward to EG,, their lineup is very strong now

 

no liquid? they seem most interesting with mister 9k mmr

 

Yeah, it's a shame there's only 8 teams.

 

Great RP in Game 1 of Vega vs. Empire in the BTS Series EU

 

Strange to see DC not invited

 

4 Chinese
2 European
1 SEA
1 Americas

Seems like a common distribution in a Chinese tourney.