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Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

Discussion in 'BioWare' started by Morgoth, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Stainless Veteran Arcane

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    W2's story is many things, but "mature" it is not. At least not in the sense of serious storytelling. I get that they wanted to do an equivalent of 80s B-movie plot, sometimes successfully, sometimes... not. For example, screaming goat and honey badgers dropping nut sacks as loot kinda clash with Pitbull's "FUKSHAK".
     
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  2. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    I like how for around half the games on the list of DRM free games, it seems to be a bug/workaround rather than a feature.

    Steam is DRM though. It is a lot more as well, which is why people don't seem to mind, and it can certainly be argued it is not invasive. I just don't see how anyone could seriously argue that steam has nothing to do with DRM(which is not necessarily what you are doing). From what you yourself posted
    I don't really see the point of continuing the conversation, since I don't really care about debating to what degree steam is drm and invasive.
     
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  3. SniperHF Magister

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    Things on Kickstarter are whatever you want them to be in the sales phase. I'm sure some people were expecting something along the lines of Fallout's story. So cvv's idea could easily explain part of the $$$.
     
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  4. Stainless Veteran Arcane

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    Well, Fargo talked a good game, but always said in his pitches that he wanted to make a Wasteland 2, and never explicitly stated that he wants to make (true) Fallout 3. He alluded to the latter, of course, being a good salesman, but never stated outright, if I'm not mistaking. And Wasteland 2 was way more whimsical that Fallout 1, or even Fallout 2 were.
     
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  5. MicoSelva Prestigious Gentleman Monstroterratum Furiosum Patron

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    I was arguing that it includes DRM, but is not one itself, but you are right, this is mostly semantics.

    True enough. Also, what is considered invasive will vary from person to person. Personally, I do not mind Steam running constantly, but I understand that it might bother some people (I will also always prefer buying stuff at GOG, when it comes to digital distribution). For me the pros (like auto-patching, communicator integration, etc.) outweigh the cons. With that Denuvo DRM, I do not see any pros (for a paying consumer, the pros for publisher are obvious), just cons.
     
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  6. Xenich Cipher

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    I always shake my head every time I see these companies pull this crap. Didn't they learn that they can not keep people from pirating games with Diablo 3? You would think these companies would get a clue and stop pissing off their paying customers with these ridiculous systems.
     
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  7. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    I don't think Diablo 3 was ever pirated.
     
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  8. Grauken Divide and Confuse Patron

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    Maybe that was his point
     
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  9. Multiple Sarcasm Arcane

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    I think I remember seeing some complex server emulation hack for D3 soon after launch, but its author(s) was somehow threatened (bribed?) into discontinuing its support a short while after. Or something.
     
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  10. cvv Arcane Patron

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    A scale bro, always a scale. Sure W2 is not the pinnacle of highbrow art but compared to all the YA fantasy shit it's fucking Beethoven soirée in Carnegie Hall.

    Btw as degenerated as the Bioware and Bethesda RPGs are mechanics-wise at least they tackle some mature themes to a limited degree. In DA2 there is the Templars vs. Mages conflict dealing with the very real-world question of preemptive restrain - whether is it ok to imprison a whole group of people just because some of them are potentially dangerous (Japanese-Americans in FDR's internment camps anybody?).

    And in Skyrim there was the optional story decision to join either the empire bringing civilization and prosperity to the land or the local leaders defending their right to rule their own country - and keeping it wallowing in backwardness and poverty (a parallel to British and French colonies in Asia and Africa).

    I wish talented indie or mid-size devs like Larian grew a pair to attempt a full-scale adult RPG instead of the incessant derping with wizards, dragons and ancient relics.
     
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  11. Morgoth Arcane

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  12. Grinolf Cipher

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    Target demographic isn't an issue. Eragon had the same targeted demographic and almost the same story as A New Hope, but bi one un hua right mind would put them into the same category of quality. Same thing about HP, as I quite liked them (first 4 of them, as I hardly remember the rest), and if games on average would have been at least half as competently written as them, there wouldn't be a problem.

    If you want make a point about demographic, much better to say that the younger targeted demographic is the more talentless mediocrities wrote for them, as it easier to make money spending much less effort. But not always, as there aren't many masterpieces for middle-aged housewives for example.
     
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  14. Xenich Cipher

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    It was. I didn't even bother trying the pirate version, I knew the game was going to be shit. My friend tried the torrent version and ran the single player game for the whole 5-8 hours of game play it apparently had. /shrug
     
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  16. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Wow, it's worse than Risen 3? Holy shit.
     
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  17. eremita Savant

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    Another review claiming DAI is really a "slow" game: http://www.gaming-age.com/2014/11/dragon-age-inquisition-pc/

     
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  18. PhantasmaNL Arcane Patron

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    According to these guys It is better than Onechanbara Bikini Zombie Slayers though, but not much.
     
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  19. Elim Savant

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    Jesus Christ, that 4players review was brutal.
    Sadly, nothing new. The stuff was clear since it was announced.

    We people in Europe seem to like our RPGs brutal, complicated and deep.
    This is no Lebensraum for Bioware Dreck.
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  20. eremita Savant

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    I have a feeling that guy didn't get pass those first 10 hours and called it a day...
     
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  21. Branm Learned

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    Thats a good review....Thankful I speak German... Even more reason to not spend a dime on this game and just leech it on release...
     
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  22. Lhynn Arcane

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    Yes it was, pirated version comes with a server emulator ive heard. Not sure how it works tho.
     
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  23. MrMarbles Arbiter

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    10-page review of typical German thoroughness. Nice scale too; 0-19% is inzufficient, 40-59% ja zat is zufficient, weil 60-74% is zatisfaktory. They probably rate porn the same way
     
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  24. hell bovine Arcane

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    Nah, that's Germany for you, where most of the population seems to suffer from permament Sauerkraut poisoning. EDIT: I didn't make through the wall of text, since the review starts with the boring stuff (how characters look during dialogues and all the emotions), but the summary isn't that great either. Complaining that the world does not react to your character enough is valid criticism, but they compare it to Skyrim of all games.
     
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  25. RPGMaster Savant

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    It's called STAR WARS. None of that George Lucas revisionist bullshit around here boy.
     
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