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Capcom Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Syril, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    I'd suggest playing the game blind instead of playing it like a checklist. The game is massive, if you try to do everything, you'll get overlevelled and bored. If you wander around and go to places that seem interesting, you'll discover interesting stuff and be pleasantly surprised.

    Don't obssess too much over pawn inclinations. You could spend weeks trying to tune their behaviour. Using the potions is a good idea if your pawn is really fucked up somehow, but don't get your hopes up. regardless of their inclinations, they'll probably still do derpy shit like mages climbing on monsters or warriors fetching wounded bodies back to you while you're trying to channel a spell. Much of their behaviour is based on imitating things you do, and you realistically can't fight properly without fucking up your pawn a bit.
     
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  2. sullynathan Magister

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    Yeah the game throws too many cyclops at the player. I've beat 10 now. The Chimera too keeps respawning at the same place. I stumbled upon a dragon and it kicked my ass even though I'm level 23. I found the weakpoint on its chest but it still takes little damage, at best I only damaged 20% of just one health bar of 6 health bars. So shit. I need new weapons, but Gran Soren isn't selling new shit and I have looted most places in the game and they don't have good shit.
    I haven't. I've actually just been exploring the world. Looking at the world map, I've covered about 80% of it. There are some woods with a freaky old woman that I haven't gone to yet because I did that in my first try of the game. I just went back to Gran Soren and got the everfall quest but haven't started it.
     
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  3. mogwaimon Learned

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    Well, eventually you just gotta proceed with the main quest since the store inventory is tied to that for the most part. The game doesn't exactly have strong itemization, they're usually just stat sticks with a different skin with the exception of a few rare weapons that have elements attached. Honestly once Gran Soren's store is tapped, the only gear left is the odd unique weapon (usually as a quest reward), post-game gear, or Bitterblack Island gear. BBI outstrips almost everything in the main game so you might as well put that in the post-game category too
     
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  4. Zed Duke of Banville Arcane Patron

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    Frankly, you should complete the Quina/Witchwood quest, but then move along with the Everfall quest and the next steps of the main quest. Shop inventory advances with each stage (of 7) and more side-quests become available; also, you must have been exploring some areas to which you'll soon be sent as part of the main series of quests. Dragon's Dogma is only superficially Open World.
     
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  5. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    The world in general is tied to the main questline progress. Unrelated stuff will open up, new monsters will appear, etc. Think of it as the main questline progressing the timeline.
     
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  6. sullynathan Magister

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    that sucks, but I have found the DLC store guy. It's over because I now have like 15 - 20 quests so I'll get enough money to buy these DLC weapons.
     
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  7. Hyperion Magister

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    Get 4 Skeleton Keys head to the Northeast Corner of the Map, you'll find tons of cool shit.

    Gift 2 or 3 Foreign Knives to Ser Berne in The Encampment. It'll get him to like you enough that it'll open up an Escort Quest that nets you a Great Sword that will last you 'till the end of the game. Dude's also fucking roided out, it's more like him escorting your piddly ass through the woods.
     
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  8. Falksi Arcane

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    See I couldn't get on with the magic archer. I prefer melee combat, and it just felt like a less fun version of the assasin.

    I never got really far with Sorc, I just found them really slow & boring.
     
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  9. Ventidius Savant

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    One of the things I like about DD is that it gives you a lot of freedom to choose the terms in which you go about things. Sure, you can play it like a quest-based RPG and just do the side quests and main quest.

    However, after you hit Grand Soren and do a couple of quests there you also have the choice of going full murderhobo and just conduct independent expeditions where you just kill stuff, loot, and level up. IIRC you can clear up most of the main overworld's fog of war in this way, and even though there are a couple of quest-gated areas nothing stops you from delving its dungeons and reaching its extremities like the Blue Moon Tower, the Greatwall encampment, or Conqueror's Sanctuary except the strength of the enemies.

    The inventory may be an issue, since IIRC you have to advance on the story missions to unlock better wares, but in my experience at least you can usually find enough good loot through exploration to avoid being severely undergeared. I also recall getting better loot in the dungeon areas than in other parts, though I am not entirely sure their loot tables are actually designed to have better stuff. Upgrading and keeping your pawns up with your level also helps.

    It's not like the game is too hard in any case and you don't really need to obsess over this. You can always take a "mixed" approach and do some free exploration between the questing, indeed that is probably the optimal approach. I would, however, recommend you do the forest girl's quest as soon as you have the chance, as it is possible to miss it for the rest of the playthrough.

    Proper character building helps a lot with survivability. It's always a good idea to get some levels in a class that has good HP gains, like Fighter, for example.
     
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  10. sullynathan Magister

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    Wasted a lot of time with an escort quest just to get next to the place and the quest just fails.

    I'm already tired of the wolves/bandits now. The wolves especially, they come in large packs of a dozen or greater constantly attacking and fleeing elongating a fight.
     
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  11. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Wolves hunt in packs!
     
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  12. Wunderbar Arcane

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    sullynathan they're masterworks all, you can't go wrong.
     
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  13. sullynathan Magister

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    things didn't pan out for getting DLC weapons. I got side tracked and explored the north of Gran Soren because I was tired of looking for Jaspar and he didn't spawn.

    I switched to the assassin class. The bow is somewhat useful but the double jump and rolling is better than the fighter, and I kept most of my armor and can still use swords.

    I killed more trash mobs until I stumbled upon Soulflayer Canyon. The dungeons in DD can be linear but they tend to have good traps, bosses and atmosphere. Putting a cyclops on the bridge with the threat of instant death from falling is different from the usual forest encounter.

    The mine near gran soren was my first encounter with an ogre. They're pretty much a smaller more agile cyclops that can block. This was one of the better dungeons just due to the variety of standing on the plates to activate different cages.

    I made it to an encampment north that the dragon is near according to one of my pawns. The guy with a store had good new weapons and armor.
     
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  14. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Fair warning; when you finally get around to doing the main quest you're going to steamroll it and be backtracking to a lot of areas you've seen before. I'd still recommend doing so since it'll unlock some new areas and monsters and sidequests though.

    And definitely don't stop playing before trying out BBI, it's an entirely different animal from the rest of the game and very fun to crawl through.
     
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  15. sullynathan Magister

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    I've been there and immediately left because i knew it was dlc stuff. Truthfully, I'm trying to get strong enough to fight the drake again.
     
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  16. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Haha, you'rr playing the same way I did, trying to kill all the strongest stuff before I'm supposed to. Good luck with the drake, he's a bastard without certain kinds of cheesy strats or better gear/skills.
     
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  17. sullynathan Magister

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    There was a cool flying wizard that summoned undead. I've been looking more closely into what abilities other pawns have before I get them. I got a sorcerer that has a meteor spell. This shit pretty much kills cyclops, chimera and the wizard but for whatever reason the pawn always takes his time before using it, usually waiting till the enemy is almost dead.

    Why don't enemies have interaction with each other and the world around them?
     
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  18. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Game isn't really finished. I'd imagine monsters eating bandits was on the to do list but got cut.

    Yeah pawns are retards. Especially sorcerors. I put up with them sometimes to quad cast some crazy shit, but generally you're better off with support spells and a melee pawn that likes to grapple shit.

    Or just play the best class and use your pawns as living ammunition for an unholy death cannon
     
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  19. fork Erudite

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    Because the game isn't perfect after all.

    By the way, once shit starts to become kinda easy, which will happen sooner or later, consider playing with your main pawn only (or even solo).
     
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  20. sullynathan Magister

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    There are some cool spell combos between my pawns. My main pawn is a mage, the 2nd one a sorcerer. The main pawn casts a spell that surrounds her with projectiles that will attack anything that comes close. The sorcerer casts a spell that covers our weapons with fire and covers her spell with fire too, so it's like an ice fire homing missile.

    It's easy now minus the drake but I prefer having the pawns around and extra damage. To my understanding xp isn't split at all and I stopped giving pawns gear because they can't use it anyway. They're good for holding heavy items so that I don't constantly have to go back to a town. Doing things this was, I've heavily cut down on inventory management and switch pawns as I level.
     
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  21. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    one easy way to make pawns useful is to find the one thing they do well and limit their repertoire

    like

    a ranger pawn with just the 12 arrow shot skill so they spawn it

    or a strider pawn with just dagger skills, so they are that much more likely to climb and distract things
     
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  22. sullynathan Magister

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    So pretty much choose one spell/ skill for my main pawn that I like.

    Doesn't sound very feasible for picking other pawns
     
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  23. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    You don't have to go that route (though you will find other people's pawns set up that way) it's just a way to control them better. Oh, and you can give them orders to some extent. I forget the controls for it, but there's a command that will make them heal you, and another that will make them buff you. Very helpful.

    If you give them a full loadout of skills, if they know the weakness of an enemy they'll exploit it. The problem is, most pawns don't know jack shit, especially your own, so they use dumb shit instead. But a well trained pawn with a good toolkit is very effective.
     
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  24. sullynathan Magister

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    I'm playing this completely offline. The pawns are still dumb, one fell off a cliff and needed help so I jumped off the cliff and died losing a good amount of progress.

    Anyway, I found the fort of women. When I made it to the top, their leader immediately attacked me so I massacred all of them. The guy at the great wall encampment didn't allow me to withdraw items so I couldn't check if I had anything to fool them like my pawn recommended.

    I eventually made it to the Catacombs, another good dungeon that lead me directly back to Gran Soren. The game might lack easy fast travel, but there are shortcuts here and there. I went to the DLC shop because I have 350k gold and all the DLC items are worse than what I currently have, so I have money to do whatever with.

    The shitty Jasper quest doesn't spawn Jasper in until you wait outside Gran Soren for like 5 minutes. This is really annoying in general because both monsters and npcs will spawn right in your face when you don't expect it. The faggot even asked for 30k gold to help him.

    With this done, the rest of the dozen quests I have are go here and kill x enemy for money and xp which I don't need nor will I trek to those places and beat on trash mobs since I'm level 33. I'm just gonna move on with the main quest of everfall.
     
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