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Capcom Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Syril, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Black Angel Arcane

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    "Even in numbers, a weakling is a weakling still!"
     
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  2. sullynathan Magister

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    I sure love the sorcerer but it has one grave flaw. You can't manually lock on. It is really annoying when you want to target a spider in front of you, or a Griffon above you or ward on a tree and the game just won't do so with its auto lock.

    Other than that the vocation is great and really opens up when you get some spells rolling in. Fuck, if only the pawns were as competent as I am. Pull back, let the tank fight and cast bolide or fulmination.

    It also hit me that V from Devil May Cry 5 could easily fit in the game with proper summons. Capcom handled the controls and moveset slightly better in DMC5 by giving manual lock-on, greater moveset and allowing you to choose to make your familiars auto attack on the fly with better ai than the pawns.

    The Griffin is also pretty great as a random encounter. So far, it's definitely been the best creature of the game next to the chimera because it doesn't appear as frequently and takes better use of the grappling mechanic of the game. Partners weighing it down so it doesn't fly high and it crashing down due to too much damage is always a visual treat. If they can take it a further step like monster hunter and allow you to damage its wings to the point it can't keep flying, that would be great for a sequel.

    The golem is just pure shit and turned me off from a full magic party. I went to find Selene in the woods and ended up fighting a golden. 2 sorcerers, 1 mage, 1 strider. This shitty fight took 20 minutes because golems don't take damage anywhere else but the discs on their body and those discs are only harmed by physical attacks. Every single fucking spell was useless and did no damage while my dumbass strider pawn was just running around or not attacking. Once we destroyed all the other discs the final one, was again, under the foot of the golem so we had to wait for it to fall on its knees to actually damage it. We had to do this twice because the pawns don't even attack immediately they see the weakness.

    This just forced me to be picky and look up a bit more about pawn inclination. Pretty much I'm only picking certain pawns that attack on sight or use items frequently. It's not perfect but their performance is better than previous pawns.

    Pawns knowing info about quests have been mostly useless. They primarily give vague info or directions on quests that have quest markers so they're less useful for those quests.
    The only quest itsbeen useful is Valmiro leaving the village and my pawn telling me what type of meat he wants and where I can buy pendants for him.

    On a more positive note, nights and fast travel are pretty great. It's dark as it should be, you have a lantern instead of carrying a torch on your off hand, reducing your combat potential like every other rpg. Goblins/wolves/bandits spawn day and night but in most areas undead, skeletons, wights and phantoms spawn instead changing up how you approach those areas. Phantoms were annoying when I didn't use magic because pawns suck and can't use their spells right but as a magic user they're feasible to fight now.
     
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  3. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Just to make sure, you know about the toggle for switching between free targetting and lockon mode with spells right? It can be pretty important for certain spells.

    I can't recall quest info being of much use on pawns but monster info sure makes a difference between them hitting enemies in their weakpoints or not.
     
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  4. Shrimp Educated

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    It's been a while since I played the game so I might be wrong, but I believe pawns having quest knowledge just makes them provide a hint on how to proceed with a quest once you accept it.
    If I recall correctly half of the time they just restate the quest instructions given to you by the NPC that assigned the quest to begin with.
     
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  5. mogwaimon Learned

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    Yea, if you're using a gamepad you can alter targets to an extent using the right analog stick IIRC while casting the spell. Also don't discount a full magic party just yet, later in the game it gets ridiculous when you have multiple sorcerers in a party since apparently sorcerer spells get a damage bonus when you cast them at the same time as another party member.

    Oh, another tip, you can get more fast travel points by placing portcrystals throughout the world. You should have access to at least one or two areas where they can be picked up by now, and great places to put them include Blue Moon Tower where you fought the griffin, that castle in the northwest that you stumbled upon after the female bandit fort, and other out of the way places. It'll save you a lot of time later on, and they remain active even through new game plus.
     
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  6. sullynathan Magister

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    Already ahead of you, I've played 6 or 7 and one near bluemoon tower, hopefully there's more.
    I'm using a controller, I don't know about a toggle
     
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  7. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    I play with controller too, it's like, clicking an analog stick in or something.
     
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  8. DragoFireheart all caps, rainbow colors, SOMETHING.

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    Have four sorcs and spam the meteor spell. It'll kill the Golem quick.
     
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  9. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    The bigass ice spell should work too. Super secret sorc tech the game devs don't want you to know:
    These spells do pure magic damage: Anything lightning, the first two fire and ice spells, the status spells (poison/blind/petrify), maelstrom.
    These spells do hybrid damage, and won't scratch certain enemies that are nearly immune to physical damage, but WILL fuck up a golem: bolide, seism, and gicel.

    But fuck damage, learn high Exequy and snuff the fucker out like a boss.
     
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  10. sullynathan Magister

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    Meteors don't do shit. Gicel doesn't do shit.
     
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  11. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Probably don't have a good enough staff to get past it's defense. Exequy works for sure, if you can pull it off, which is easier said than done for a golem. But it's a hell of a lot faster if you're tickling it to death.
     
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  12. sullynathan Magister

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    strength or magicka? I have a dark staff that's the best right now. I also beat a cockatrice.
     
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  13. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Climb it and wail at it with normal physical attacks while your chad ranger does all the job tbh.
     
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  14. sullynathan Magister

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    Can't, I'm a sorcerer and only shoot magic bolts.
     
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  15. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    the normal bolts are physical damage, aren't they
     
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  16. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Strength. The physical component of sorc spells scales only off the strength stat of the weapon itself. It's weird, although it makes sense that the buffness of a wizard wouldn't affect their spells. That staff actually has especially low strength stat compared to it's magick stat. Well, it's not worth caring about just for that one scenario.

    Did the cockatrice instagib anyone? They can be a nightmare or a total joke depending on your loadout.

    Your jumping melee range energy blast thingy does phys damage, as will your climbing attack.
     
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  17. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    dats wat i ment but you are all no and stuffies
     
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  18. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Well you suck at meaning things then. 'Normal bolts' would obviously imply the shooty orb things, since bolts are things you shoot.
     
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  19. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    but i said: 'climb it and wail at it with normal physical attacks' - ie the climb attack
     
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  20. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    Yeah that part is fine.
     
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  21. sullynathan Magister

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    everyone in my group survived even though he got me with petrification, but I have way too many potions for that to harm me. A few meteors dropping fucked him.
     
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  22. sullynathan Magister

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    Quick question. Was this game hard on the ps3? Every review I saw said how hard the game was and compared it to demons/ dark souls and all I can think of that was hard were the beginning bandits.

    Holy shit I'm at the final battle already at level 51 40 hours. Seems short, but I'm not gonna do the rest of these board quests because I already have 2 million gold.

    Is this a good time to go to BBI?
     
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  23. Hyperion Magister

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    You're poor.

    The entire game changes in the post-game. There's also another, easier dungeon than BBI. I guess it's recommended to do first, but I like to start BBI around level 50 and get some of the introductory gear before the final fight because

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    You get a full dragonforge set of every piece of gear you're currently wearing.


    It's more JRPG than Dark Souls, so you can inflate stats, carry lots of items compared to Dark Souls. Monsters in the early game hit really fucking hard. A Saurian can 1 or 2 shot a low level character if he lands the jump strike on you. Which he shouldn't. Journos suck at games, it just wasn't such common knowledge in 2012.
     
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  24. sullynathan Magister

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    I beat Grigori, it was a bit easy after all the QTE and scripted stuff was done. I was getting pissed that my pawns kept falling to their deaths so I reloaded the save a bunch which didn't matter anyway because she materialized for the finale.

    Arguably the gayest thing in a video game happened. Grigori gave me a choice between saving a person or fighting, obviously I chose to fight. Do you know who the game chose as my closest person? Valmero. What would even lead the game to believe my character liked valmero? The game was ready to make my arisen kiss him and he now follows me.

    Anyway, the ending is climatic to say the least.
     
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  25. Wunderbar Arcane

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    sullynathan keep playing, it's not the end.

    at least it wasn't Fournival.
     
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