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Capcom Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Syril, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Biscotti Savant Patron

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    I'm seeing a lot of downright implausible stuff on that list. However, after DMC5's adequate performance I wouldn't be surprised if Itsuno is given some more leeway to realize a project of his liking, in which case he would very likely go for another DD game as I remember him saying he absolutely would if given the opportunity to.
     
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  2. deuxhero Arcane

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    Really the thing that makes me doubt this is that none of it lines up with that mass trademarking they did at the end of last year. They were new, not renewals.
     
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  3. Assisted Living Godzilla Arbiter

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    They were two different places.

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    Oh, the YouTube video works in America now.



    I can't remember if it's in the GDC presentation, but there's some concept art with a lion man in it. Now you've got a lion guy in Capcom's RPGish boss rush fighting game Red Earth that seems to be a take on a popular fantasy in Japan called Guin Sage. So either at some point in development you could either just make a lion guy, there were cures that changed how you looked, (which is what's going on in Guin Sage & Red Earth) or there was just some lion guy NPC in the world. Although given how none of the characters in the concept art are in the game, I think it's meant to show off what you (or maybe just your party) could look like.

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  4. TheSentinel Arcane

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    Itsuno mentions that the "tower to the moon" idea got reworked into the everfall.

    As for the lion picture, it's an extremely early stage draft back when the team were trying to find their footing on what the world would look like, and has the following comment on the art book:
     
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  5. Assisted Living Godzilla Arbiter

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    Yeah, the Endless Tower is what the Everfall became. The original idea for the Endless Tower / Everfall was that it was a space that linked all the player worlds together. It sounds like while everyone would have there own space in the normal open world part, the Endless Tower was a shared space between everyone. In the final game the most this seems to come into play is with the Ur Dragon fight, and some things said when you meet Seneschal at the end. The idea of the Endless Tower (at least from what it sounds like it was going to be) seems to have found its way into Itsuno's DMC5 somewhat with the Cameo Systems, but in particular the tower area around the end where all three characters can be together.

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    It's been a while since I watched the GDC video, so I just gave it another watch. At 15:40 Hideaki Itsuno does talk about how at one point your part could also be made up of non-human characters and even pets. So there was at least one point during development where the idea of having non-human party members was in the game.

    At 29:57 there's an interesting bit where they show an internal video showing what they were going for. Interesting in that it shows things with combat and environmental interactions that didn't made it into the final game that maybe could make it in a sequel.
     
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  6. Diablo1_reborn Savant

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    So they cut like ... 75% of the game's content?

    Jesus christus.
     
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  7. mogwaimon Learned

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    it's a testament to the quality of Dragon's Dogma that it was that good even with all of that cut out. maybe if we ever get DD2 we'll get the full experience. I'm a little optimistic because I finished Nier Automata recently and that gave me hope that the industry can still produce something artistic and great on a big budget
     
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  9. Ent Learned

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    Some of the exclusive classes in DDO were really cool from what I got to play in the games last two months of life. I hope they can make it into 2 if it becomes a thing.
     
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  10. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    magic immune goblin shamans tbh
     
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  11. Lord Commissar Alexer Educated

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    I really should someday finish this game...
     
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  12. Puukko Arcane

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    Finish it three times you mean.

    Though technically I've never fought the Seneschal...
     
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  13. cretin Learned

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    you really have to give this game at least an hour. Ive started and dropped it many times because the tutorial and the intro area make it seem really fucking banal and generic, but the game quickly opens up after that and starts to be really fun. If you haven't at least gotten to the capital, give the game another chance.
     
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    I think we all did given how many pages and years this thread has existed.
     
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  15. Citizen Arcane

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    Kodex, can you recommend me something similar to DD in terms of mysterious atmosphere/combat/exploration/secrets/RPG elements? The closest I played were Legend of zelda: Twilight Princess and Soul Reaver, so maybe similar to them would be also fine

    No darksoyls pls
     
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  16. Dishonoredbr Scholar

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    Playing the game , on the switch , runs pretty well and looks solid.

    Combat good but i still a Strinder so not that many opitons.. I need to go to the capital yet tho. Hope opens up soon because so far , don't seems to have actual story or characters other than Mercedes and Quina.
     
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  17. Matador Erudite

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    If you haven't arrived to the Capital, you are at the very early game. All the aspects of the game, included combat, are going to open soon.
     
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  18. Licorice Prophet Vatnik

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  19. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    I like DD a lot, but don't hold your breath for a brilliant story.
     
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  22. Citizen Arcane

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    Is this really good? I thought it was a meme game about anime waifus wearing no pants

    It seems like it was made by platinum tho and I liked madworld from them. I'll try it
     
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  23. Falksi Arcane

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    Divinty 2 The Dragon Knight Saga isn't a million miles away.

    Worse combat, far rougher game, but way better roleplaying.
     
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  24. Puukko Arcane

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    Playing Dark Souls made me want to pick this up again and I did so with a few grafix mods (half of which seem to be NSFW, buy the models in this game are not really good enough to make those worthwhile) and this difficulty mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/378?tab=description

    Overbearing real life story and slightly confusing installation instructions aside, it seems like a quality difficulty mod and something my nth playthrough definitely needs. I've only reached the hydra head escort mission but those wolf packs and bandit gangs definitely had me on my toes. Pawns also seemed a bit more reliable and slightly less prone to dying.
     
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    This game sucks, just massive amounts of running around a pretty boring world, do a few awkward button combinations to explode a bunch of dumb enemies. Repeat 10000 times.
     
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