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Eador Genesis

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Anthony Davis, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. gunman Arcane Developer

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    Has anyone managed to finish the campaign? I am afraid of losing patience halfway through it and throwing so many hours out on the window.
    I know some of you prefer playing single maps but what are your recommendations for playing the campaign?
    From my limited experience in campaign, I felt I need to rush to the outer rings and search for the opponents instead of taking time to explore the locations close to my home province because the enemies can advance very fast and catch you unprepared. This means you don't have time to gain a lot of money and I am always on the bank of bankruptcy early in the game. It also means I cannot afford the second hero until very late, and only on the larger maps.
     
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  2. InspectorRumpole Cipher

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    Wtf that upkeep :negative:

    This guy better be worth it.

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  3. Malakal Arcane

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    Dunno, looks very squishy. Especially against magic.
     
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  4. Dr Skeleton Cipher

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    Yeah, the upkeep on these guys is insane. They're good but not so good that they're worth 2-3 weaker tier 3 units, I don't buy them unless my economy is out of control or I'm preparing for a final push at enemy's capital and don't care if I go into negative gold income.
    BTW you should use a banner on a commander.
     
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  5. InspectorRumpole Cipher

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    I thought the same as well.

    Then my Grand Inquisitor leveled up :D

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  6. InspectorRumpole Cipher

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    Ok I'm tempted to say the Guardian of Souls is worth it. He goes through evil like a knife through warm butter.

    He did 65 damage to a Devil, and chopped him down in two strikes.

    He died though, when I was fighting a Cult of Necrus (1 Maleficar, 3 Warlocks, 5 Vampires)

    I teleported him in to take down the Maleficar, but unfortunately he ended up in the middle of the Vampires, who were particularly nasty.
     
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  7. Raghar Arcane

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    Look at her stats.

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    My name is Carnage.

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    And this is how that weak, murdered that ghost fairy ended.

    She learned healing at level 17. Not that she needed it.
     
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  8. Grif Learned

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    Is there any tips to playing either Wizard or Ranger as the first hero? I can never seem to get off the ground with these two. (At least not to my liking. It's remarkably easy to snowball with Commander + Swordsman + Healer).
     
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  9. Dr Skeleton Cipher

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    Ranger + swordsmen is great. Swordsmen have so much defense they ignore most archers and can easily take on any melee unit in the early game, the hero can take out annoying enemies like shamans and soften up everyone else. You can skip on a healer if you don't get enough command, rangers get many spell slots compared to warriors and commanders, you should have enough room for healing and slow spells. Try to get scouting to level 2 early, decreasing enemy stamina before the fight is amazing at every stage of the game. Diplomacy is pretty nice to take over provinces for less gold but it's very map dependent.
     
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  10. Raghar Arcane

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    With wizard as a first hero you are fucked.
    With starting gem income, you will have problems to pay for both buildings and spells, and wizards have problems to break into second ring. Evil wizards can do somewhat, but, they have additional problem. With evil wizards you need additional school. But you are restricted to four only. (Even when you build T3 spells you are still limited into only 4 first tier schools, which feels bit absurd.)

    Now with evil wizards you can do a lot with certain stuff, but you'd burn through gems like no tomorrow. And it still will not win certain fights.
    Creating second hero, and switching to improve him enough to break into second ring is problematic. It takes 30 turns more, and someone can appear. For example I had B. appear with 5 executioners in one army. Or they can have 3 minotaurs.

    Basically expect that with wizard as starting class without steping back you'd lose some shards. Especially small ones. Basically it's quite not recommended doing small shards where these 10 turns where wizard would be INITIALLY slower would matter.

    (BTW best starting classes for small shards are warrior, and scout.) Commander takes while to take off, and then he needs MONEY. But commander is best breaker into second ring (when not considering diplomacy).
     
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  11. letsdance Barely Literate

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    i had the same issue and solved it by setting a maximum to each guard contract in the buildings. i don't remember the exact number, but for example you can set number of guard contracts for monster guard to 5 (from 0), that means the building only unlocks 5 monster guard contracts instead of unlimited ones. this make it less tedious, but it weakens the AI.
     
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  12. Aothan Magister

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    tried to form an alliance with a Unicorn but I must build my army anew

    I've started with the Commander, is the bonus experience cumulative e.g. is it 5% + 5% from level 1 to level 2 or is that the same bonus
     
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  13. Raghar Arcane

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    If you meant you tried to tame a unicorn, and he butchered you, well you should have at least one T3 slot.
    Also it's not that important to have high level units in whole army. And these few it happens naturally when they survive. Or should we say if they survive without healer in the army?

    At most the bonus is 1.25x which is irrelevant. That morale is nice however. There is also gear that gives another 1.25x. It requires quite a bit of luck to collect it.
     
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  14. Raghar Arcane

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    Pegasus.

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    A pegasus army.
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    Balista.

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    Dryad. Kinda tough.

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    I wonder about this guy.

    Also I checked something, and it looks like I locked into one ending, because I didn't want to fight one shard defense.
     
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  15. Aothan Magister

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    right so I need to leave the third level slot open, indeed the situation backfired, but I need more powerful units since my tier 1 units are not really suitable for many of the encounters I'm now coming across, all these stone golems and medusas etc
     
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  16. Raghar Arcane

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    Do you remember Das Boat. This is.
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    Die Slinger.

    What do you mean tier 1 units? Shouldn't you have something better?
     
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  17. Dr Skeleton Cipher

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    I had a slinger with evil slayer and two accuracy medals in NH once. He died eventually near the end around level 15 without advancing to veteran status but he probably had the most kills of all non-hero units on that map.

    Are you playing the campaign? If so you need to unlock T3 units first, they also randomly show up as mercenaries and sometimes you can get them from places in your provinces. If you want to reliably get T3 units from you castle you need to conquer shards to unlock the fort (T2 dwellings will start appearing as rewards for shards) > guild of builders > citadel and only then individual dwellings for T3. It takes a while.
     
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  18. Raghar Arcane

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    Why T3. T2 can survive unicorn... barely. Also for evil wizards there are ways to get T2 units.

    Well. The most important spell for evil wizard is resurrection.
     
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  19. Dr Skeleton Cipher

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    Oh, you don't need T3 to fight T3, you can handle many T3 units just fine with a hero and good T1 units but I remember I had the problem of "how the hell do I get T2+ units" at first because I started with the campaign and you don't even see T2 unit dwellings until a couple of shards in.
     
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  20. Erkezul Literate

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    Hello, does anyone know if there is a database with eador monster/castle unit stats for New Horizons?
    I need to decide on a creature for my rank 3 slot but i donno what is available. Currently playing single player at expert difficulty, turn 180 with +260 income , warrior class and i'm only using two rank 2 units a valkyrie and a horseman archer(the upgraded one, don't remember his name cause currently at work and can't check). So i guess i'm looking for something like a Knight or a rly good caster/healer unit. Any help would be appreciated!
     
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  21. InspectorRumpole Cipher

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    I'm pretty sure I saw a comprehensive list on the official site/forums, but it's in Russian, and I can't be arsed finding it.
     
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  22. bavarian kid Educated

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    Enjoy;)
     
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  23. Erkezul Literate

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    Excellent thank you! Exactly what i was looking for!
     
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  24. Dr Skeleton Cipher

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    http://wortkarg.bitbucket.org/eadoropedia/
    https://translate.google.com/transl...&u=http://wortkarg.bitbucket.org/eadoropedia/

    If you want a peek at the latest version (goblins, ratmen and magic schools are almost completely different) that's not in English yet and/or want to laugh at unit descriptions provided by google translate
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    However, the forces of the devil, as a rule, lacking only a zipper, but the one in whom it will get, and more than enough.
     
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  25. Aothan Magister

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    no, I was about 250 turns in, exploring all the adjacent provinces among other activities and wondering why I could not access tier 2 and then transitioned into the shard zone (i.e. still at the start of the game)


    Dr Skeleton do you mean Imperium ?
     
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