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ELEX RELEASE THREAD

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by Raapys, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. Iznaliu Arbiter

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    It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. In fact, I'd be shocked if it didn't win an award.
     
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  2. Outlander Custom Tags Are For Fags. Patron

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    The fuck is ELEX doing in the second page???
     
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  3. Morkar illiterate

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    Yeah, that's an insult! Why isn't it on number one already???
     
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  4. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    So I finally got a two handed sword and expiremented with it.

    One interesting thing is that you CAN do timed parries on other two-handers with a 2-handed weapon. However, that whole mechanic seems bugged as hell. It's kind of impossible to figure out when you should be parrying exactly. In Dark Souls, for example, you are told to parry as soon as you see the weapon begin its attack (after the windup or whatever). In Gothic 1/2, you had to hit parry as soon as you saw the attack. In Witcher 3, you could do it when the red bar lit up, or when it looked like the enemy weapon would hit.

    Here, it's impossible to tell. I experimented at the Goliette gate against Drog, who has a 2 handed hammer. His attacks are very different, and some have really long windup stages. I was able to consistently parry one type of attack, , but the other 2-3 were just impossible to do. In fact, sometimes it almost seemed like i heard the soudn of a parry (metal on metal), but the attack hit me regardless.

    The combat in this game is so weird. The timed parry and the roll are features of an action combat system, meant to be timed in reaction to the enemy, but neither of them really work that well, and the go-to defensive move seems to be just holding up block, which requires no skill or anything else. Is it just them running out of money before the combat system could be fully implemented?
     
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  5. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I never tried parry with 2h, but with 1h it worked similar to other PB games - you just parry when their swing is coming in, and usually it's pretty consistent.
     
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  6. T. Reich Arcane

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    TBH, I never really mastered blocking/parrying, in none of G1+2, R1, DS1+2, or Elex.
    In regards to defense in Elex, I found that offense is the best defense. Especially if you're using a 2h, because it's really easy to stun-lock an enemy with a properly-timed attack chain.
    Rolling in this regard is just as offensive maneuver as it is defensive. Rolling as defense really only good when you know the enemy (and its attacks' timings) and do rolling in anticipation of their attacks rather than as the immediate reaction to an attack already in execution. In this regard, rolling is great for avoiding immediate enemy retaliations after you finished your attack chain. Then you usually get a bit of a breather to reposition and regen stamina, and then a couple more rolls usually put you in a good position to start attacking again.
    This is all not an early game stuff, of course, because you will need to increase your baseline stamina quite a bit before you can execute more complex battle actions.

    P.S.: And then there's the magic 1-button press "evade" action, which seems to utilise i-frames and is almost a cheat-mode, but it's disabled by default.
     
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  7. Sjukob Magister

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    I'm playing cleric with focus on melee but I found their PSI abilities are pretty strong especially against crowds. Should I max PSI skill or choose ranged weapons instead ? Also how strong is one man army ?


     
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  8. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Very stronk in my experience.
     
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  9. Haplo Liturgist Patron

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    Yesterday I've learned Power Wave PSI... and just... wow. It's pretty awesome. Now meleeing crowds should be much simpler. I'll need to test it against some larger opponents though.
     
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  10. Zlaja Arcane

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    I just solved the abessa dispute by siding with the outlaws. Oh man, I'm filthy rich now after all that looting. :positive:

    PS: Riley you dumb fucking n****r!
     
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  11. Luckmann Arcane Zionist Agent

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    Oh, how much we all wish that was true.
     
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  12. Brancaleone Learned

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    Ok, thanks to the wealth of info graciously provided by the Codex' gentlemen, I've decided to wait a few patches and finally get Elex.

    Also, to uphold the honourable internet tradition of feeling entitled to the fruit of other people's work: is the hell-hamster working on his bloody review, or not?
     
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  13. fork Cipher

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    I think he is. Donate to his patreon to speed up the process.
     
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  14. imweasel Guest

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    I am pretty sure there are no strongly pigmented Africanos in this game.
     
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  15. Zlaja Arcane

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    Riley is a spiritual negro.
     
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  16. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    So is this game worth playing? or is it shit? or both??
     
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  17. Haplo Liturgist Patron

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    Yes.
     
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  18. Gepeu Savant Patron

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    It's the best game since, like, Underrail. It's awesome, just rough around the edges.
     
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  19. toro Arcane

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    Really rough edges. Like something close to soil.
     
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  20. Sjukob Magister

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    I wanted to save this until I was done with the game but I can't hold it for longer.

    Why the fuck is there still no proper gothic I-II clone ?! Fucking shit, just look at this sorry parade: non-gothic 3, Risen, Risen 2 electric boogaloo, Risen 3 - the "fuck no" game and now Elex. How many more attempts will it take them to finaly not fuck it up ? More so, even after G3 turned out as an abysmal fucking disaster because of their will to create a huge and detailed open world they are still going for it ... If I could interview Piranha Bytes I would've asked them just one question : "What the fuck?"


    Yeah I know that Risen and Elex are kind of ok, but eh ,whatever, still very underwhelming when you compare them to gothic which is more than a decade old at this point.

    And yes I do know that publisher heavily contributed to fucking up the entire Risen series.
     
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  21. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    I blame the mass audience, which has been trained by Bethesda to expect gigantic open worlds, nevermind if they’re totally bereft of content. Gothic 1/2 could get away with small, tight worlds because the first person 3D ARPG thing was just getting started. I don’t think PB would be able to charge full price if the world was 50% smaller, even if it also made the game 50% better. Most newcomers would feel like they’d been taken advantage of.

    I wish they’d just tell the mass audience to fuck off, but that’s not the best business plan.

    It’s probably also because these guys were a lot younger when they made Gothic 2. Gothic 3 clearly burned them out and they haven’t been the same since. It’s like Chris Avellone: he peaked nearly 20 years ago. He still writes good content but I doubt we’ll ever see another PS:T style magnum opus.
     
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  22. Junmarko Goomba Patron

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    Former Piranha Bytes and CDProjekt RED figureheads have been developing it privately this entire time.

    Under project codename: "Spacetime".


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  23. Sjukob Magister

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    I don't trust cd projekt after TW3. I honestly have no idea what can come out of such alliance, but I'm not pessimistic about it and your post got me interested. It's just that I feel like cd projekt will screw something or that their influnce might be harmful.

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    I'm tempted to say that despite all of it's flaws and even bugs Elex is still a more enjoyable and fun game than TW3, but DOS2 taught me to take time before making a coclusion, so we'll see.
     
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  24. Gepeu Savant Patron

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  25. lukaszek the determinator

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    deterministic system > RNG
     
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