Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

Well, i can see people buying it just to support it or because they really like it, so there's that, also, i thought not having crossplay was the standard for fighting games and they don't tend to have a large amount of players unless it's something really damn popular like Tekken or Street Fighter, even games based on popular franchises like DBFZ lag behind them.

At least that's what i hear, again, not exactly a guy that knows a lot about fighting games.

 

Hello once again, my fellow humans. We at Epic Games have caught a lot of negative attention from hostile "Gamers" upset that we generously offer their favorite developers large sums of money timed early release on our platform. However, have you considered the actions of Valve Software? A terrible virus was released upon the great nation of China and has since spread and become a global pandemic. While the strong Chinese spirit has quelled this threat in a mere matter of months, the western world is crumbling and sending everyone into quarantine. Governments are advising, nay, ordering people to stay in their homes. Coincidentally, just as the outbreak is getting worst of all, Valve Software releases Half-Life Alyx, a shooter that utilizes VR. It's at times like these you have to ask yourself, is paying developers more for their hard work really so bad when compared to releasing a deadly virus upon the world to promote your latest VR release? I believe you'll come to the correct conclusion.

Regards,
Tim Sweeney, human

 

And that wasn't even Steam/Valve's decision to have it that way. It's the publishers/developers who don't want to put up a non-Steam DRM version of their games.

And this is the thing people has been explaining to you but it doesn't matter, isn't it? If a game can only be bought and played through Steam, it's an 'exclusive' even though it wasn't Valve's decision to have it that way. My God, Epic Cucks has some of the thickest skull out there that whatever is being given to them are deflected, while everything inside is trapped.

 

You guys spoke only about Valve games being only on Steam, and I was clarifying there's a fuckton of games only on Steam. I know you see a massive difference between exclusively on Steam and exclusive to Steam, as if it matters to the consumer, but it's still helpful to point out the whole "games should be available everywhere" crusade you guys are supposedly on stops at Steam's doorstep. When something is only on Steam, you don't complain. I've told you a thousand times I hate clients, and my preferred platform is GOG. Are you upset I can't buy shit like Resident Evil 3 on GOG? I doubt it.

 

Being exclusive to Steam is objectively better than being exclusive to Epic tho.

Last night I had a back pain so I lied down, ended up playing Into the Breach on my phone through Steam Link. Great little feature. Meanwhile Epic doesn't even have an FPS counter and its wishlist is lackluster as hell. So I will be that guy and say it: Steam's "exclusive games" are great compared to Epic's exclusive games, because Steam itself is a great client, a great store, has great customer experience (at least for me)

 

Maybe they're exclusive to Steam because no other platform cares to offer service to Linux

 

Steam has more people playing games on Mac than on Linux. This should tell you a lot about why nobody cares about people on Linux.

 

And Epic's shenanigans supposed to change all this?

The most important question you forgot to ask here. GOG has been around for far longer, but only when Epic starts making a fuss (in the wrong way, no less) does you cucks starts preaching to the choir.

 

Even Linux doesn't offer service to Linux.

 

If epic is so great and steam is so shit then why everyone jump to steam as soon as exclusivity period ends but no one release their games on epic after steam without bribe?

 

How does it work on Stadia if it has no controller support?

 

Steam is a fuck-lot better than Epic, sure. And if most people were honest in their arguments by saying "I want everything on Steam and Epic is cock-blocking me" then that would be one thing. It's the hypocritical "games should be available everywhere!!!" argument that rings hollow, when those people never complained once about things being exclusively available through Steam.

My cucks does been preaching against DRM since Mass Effect had a SecuROM activation limit, but history has shown very few people give a damn so there's not much point bringing it up anymore.

 

Hahaha. No.

 

LoL you do know that those numbers are not really accurate,many people don't allow steam to get their numbers.

 

Implying Steam's DRM is anywhere near the atrocity that is SecuROM, but that's not my point.

My point is that GOG has been around long enough to be seen as a proper competition to Steam, and if people were truly butthurt about Steam deciding to make their games exclusive to their own storefront AND developers/publishers not making their games available without needing Steam, then why are you cucks not championing GOG who's been DRM-free since, what, the very beginning? I'll be honest here I don't know how GOG started, but the way I see it GOG is literally everything that Steam wasn't (complete, full-on DRM-free products AND a catalog of old games not published on Steam).
And so seeing you cucks applauding Epic's shenanigans and their 'one upping Steam's (((((((((((monopoly))))))))))))' when the reality is they ALSO robbed GOG of a chance to get Day 1 release is just facepalming.

 

There are no "deals" with Valve to keep games Exclusive to their platform. Devs are allowed and sometimes encouraged to release on other platforms or Stores, or on their own Website or whatever. Your issue is either with the developers only releasing on Steam for whatever reason or with Valve for making such a good service customers are flocking to that developers don't think it's worthwhile to release on other Stores.

 

People have been championing GOG from the very start, at least those who can't stand DRM but also don't mind digital copies since some people refuse to get any game that isn't in a physical form, and GOG fan's attempts have not been that successful, mostly because a lot of gamers really really don't care about DRM to a point where they get genuinely confused seeing people hate clients so damn much.

 

I've literally been cheering GOG since the very beginning and saying I hate all clients. I don't think you pay attention very well, you just scream "EPIK CUKKK!" and think it's some kind of deep analysis.

 

Heck, there are people who apparently only have Steam accounts to ask for games on GOG, seriously, i have seen quite a few threads on game forums in Steam for indie or the more interesting games that aren't on GOG, and you get threads of people asking the developers to put the game on GOG saying they don't really get anything on Steam, again, making me think they only made accounts to ask developers to use GOG more.

I don't think it ever worked, for example, a game that quickly came to mind, Wild Guns Reloaded, i recall seeing someone asking for the game on GOG, the developer saying it probably won't happen, and sure enough, it's not on GOG, but it's not as if no one tried to get the game on GOG, developers just tend to go for Steam.

 

We're both screaming past each others ears here. Did you not notice some dumbfucks like Perkel and the likes keeps parroting Steam monopoly? And did you not notice Dexter's arguments that, perhaps, as I also has been saying over and over again, the problem isn't with Valve/Steam (who are exact opposite of the problem in truth, because they offered such good service in the first place), but with developers and publishers who for some reason didn't release their games anywhere else other than Steam?

But I think I get what other people felt when Valve decided to lock their games on Steam back in 2004. Half Life Alyx has just been released but you need VR. Meanwhile I don't have VR and I don't think I'll get one in foreseeable future, but I understand it's Valve's game and just like with Steam they're trying to pave a path to a market (which, this time happened to already have a size, no matter how small it seems in comparison to already existing ones).

I'm sad, but what can I do? It's not like they bribed a developer/publisher who is halfway through developing their games to exclusively publish their games on their (half-assed) storefront, no matter if only for a year or half.

 

Steam doesn't have a monopoly, it's a market leader. They aren't the same thing.
If Steam was actively paying developers to exclusively publish on their platform then you'd have an argument. Hmm…

 

Valve also didn't create Steam and push Steamworks for altruistic reasons though, let's be honest. They knew the more essential they made Steam to the modern features people wanted, and the more they gave those features for free to developers as Steamworks, the more natural "exclusives" they would have. Trust me I get your argument that it's a different thing, and I agree... and Valve earned that power, which is also important to point out. I've said many times Valve saved the PC at a very tricky point in its history. I get why Epic coming in and throwing money around to try and get into the same position is seen as shitty. However I also think "I just wants games to be available anywhere" is spin-talk for "I want all my games on Steam" most of the time. No one was upset about 90% of AAA PC games being only available through Steam for a decade, earned or not.

The "Valve earned my loyalty and I want all my games in the same place, so fuck you Sweeney" argument is one that makes a lot more sense. We'd still disagree probably, because of the DRM issue and me not liking the idea of one company having so much control, but I respect that position.

 

IIRC everything except the networking API is usable by non steam games. I know epic exclusives have used it for the cross platform input API.

 

Steam had exclusives because it was the only platform with a DRM option for a very long time. Other stores (like uPlay and Origin) did not accept third parties, which meant that Steam was the only option.