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Epic vs Steam - the console war comes to PC

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. passerby Learned

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    In the eyes of Steam Drone Army everything they'll do won't be right.
     
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    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019...ets-less-than-30-percent-of-steam-game-sales/
     
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  3. what am i doing Learned

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    Let's see your math here. Because last I checked Epic does not offer anywhere near the same services as Valve, such as Valve's massive network infrastructure or Valve's competent programmers who can make a client that doesn't shit the bed on a simple sale, so it seems strange to claim that Valve could run on less while offering more. Do explain how this works.
     
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  4. passerby Learned

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    Overwhelming majority of 28% third parties is simply physical retail and Epic games also offers keys for physical retail and resellers like humblebundle.
    Also Steam didn't had to cover payment processing fees for third party sales which is like half the cost so cut these 28% in half. How are such small percentages are even relevant here ?
    20% is not an average cut on Steam but the lowest there is applied after the game reach 60M$ revenue.

    Can't you think for yourself instead of quoting game jurno artice ? Arguing with drones is like playing a boring popamole game.
     
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  5. Cromwell Arcane

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    At the checkout? You mean nobody knows its there until they already buy something? I dont know what to say to that honestly.
     
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  6. passerby Learned

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    How about a huge banner taking half of the store home page advertising the sale?
     
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    You still honestly believe with all your hearts that literally anyone who argues against your (fucking dumb) points are Steam fanboys? Even though many of them has repeatedly pointed out they'd prefer to suck GOG cock which is justified because GOG also suck consumer's cock in a fabulous 69 with their venerable DRM-free?

    So? What does Epic has going for them in comparison? Holy shit dude, I'm contemplating of putting you on ignore to preserve my brain cells which are already decaying from reading all your stupid ass bullshit.

    Petition to tag this dumbfuck with a brand-new Epic Cum Dumpster™
     
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    Interesting: https://www.pcgamer.com/china-is-th...ic-and-steam-but-why-havent-they-been-banned/

     
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  9. RaptorRex888 Educated

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    I'm really sick of chinese bugmen being the deciding factor in western entertainment now.
     
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  10. what am i doing Learned

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    Yet when I asked for your math to back up your claim that Valve should be able to afford a smaller cut than Epic, you have simply refused to say anything further about it. Could it be that you're actually full of shit?
     
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  11. Ismaul Arcane Patron

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    It's pretty simple.

    Epic disrespects customers with their anti-customer philosophy and practices (exclusives, no client features, no reviews, shit support, etc.). They spin it as something good for devs / publishers.

    Then they disrespect publishers and devs by putting their games on sale, even unreleased ones and non-exclusives ones, without their consent (who's footing the bill is a secondary matter here). They (and their fanboys) spin it as something good for customers.

    Epic are assholes, and they keep proving it at every turn.
     
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  12. Multi-headed Cow Scholar

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    I still find it peculiar given Steam's last big sale they gave everyone $5 store credit and there wasn't a shitstorm. Then again Steam's got more than 20 games on offer, so maybe the developers/publishers feel less targeted by that store credit offer.
     
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  13. Ismaul Arcane Patron

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    Dunno. But clearly what happened wasn't equivalent to what happens on Steam, since it was enough to warrant publishers removing their games from the store. From those publishers' point of view and criteria, Epic's sale fucked them.
     
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  14. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    It was only $5, and only if you spent over $30, once. Rather than Epic's $10 for everything $14.99 and above.
    Plus it only showed at checkout.
     
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  16. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    IMO the power of the chinese consumer is heavily overestimated when you consider catering to them hurts sales pretty much everywhere else, and what you have to deal with when catering to them.
    The best example is Hollywood -- the idea that Hollywood makes a ton of money from Chinese sales is false. They make a lot of money at the box office but end up getting very little of it. Their home media market is nonexistent, if it's available outside theaters everyone just pirates it(big one for video games.) In USA, only about a quarter of a film's profits come from box office sales, the rest comes from a combination of home media, TV, digital streaming, etc., To put it in perspective: Russia is actually a more profitable market than China.
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Edija Savant Patron

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    Fitgirl and Russian sites are safer than Epix totally legit store. Clown world.
     
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  18. passerby Learned

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    The main difference is there is no army of customers on dominant store making a shitstorm out of it. If Steam pulled similar stunt ( which it has no need for ), the same people that make shitstorm out of it would enjoy cheap games and praise Gaben.
     
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    Если бы у бабушки был хуй она была бы дедушкой.
     
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  23. Wyatt_Derp Educated

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    Not a fan of what Epic's done so far, but I can't help but smile a bit at seeing Steam get a taste of its own medicine. The Steam crowd in particular are now reacting to the beginning of something that threatens to turn into what... ah why the hell do I bother. Steamsters will just gravitate to whichever place offers the best deals. ASAIK this Steam vs Epic debate would never be on the same level of say Steam vs GOG. At this point we're just semantics over what color of UI one has for their 'game service.'
     
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  24. Black Angel Arcane

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    If you think Steam is getting a taste of its own medicine, then you're blind.

    If you honestly think only Steam crowd is upset with Epic's shenanigans, you're fucking retarded.
     
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