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Epic vs Steam - the console war comes to PC

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    Not sure if it's relevant, iirc the deal is that the guaranteed sales are paid back first and only after that do they get revenue from purchases. So even if Epic guaranteed 500,000 sales it doesn't mean they only sold 7,374 copies.
    Don't quote me on that though.

    I know a lot of Japanese bought it, those were the primary streams I watched, also considering how many "influencers" pushed the game it wouldn't surprise me at all if it reached that number.
    As for the lack of buzz, I know Factorio sold about 1.5 million as of 12 months ago, and it doesn't get discussed that much either in the mainstream; Satisfactory selling a third of that during its launch period wouldn't surprise me, considering it is comparatively less niche and was pushed way harder. I also saw a lot of discussion on the #chans for whatever that's worth (whether they actually bought the game or not is a mystery).
    That said, I wouldn't rule out any number fudging for sure.
     
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  2. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Never heard of this game at all. And given Coffee Stain studios just pushes out shitty physics gimmick 'games' that isn't surprising.
     
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  3. BR4ZIL Novice

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    Either Epic Game Store is bizarro land or as we suspect, there has been some wild sales number interpretation.

    Them selling 500k means they outsold World War Z (which did 250k sales) and Metro Exodus (which did 125k) combined, considering World War Z is a competent product and has a much broader appeal (them coop FPS games!)... i really dunno whats going on.
     
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  4. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    If by that you mean they made a single Goat Simulator, then sure. They're more famous for the Sanctum series of tower defense games.

    Outselling World War Z doesn't surprise me, as far as I can tell it the marketing and word of mouth weren't as strong at launch and the discovery on the Epic store is atrociously awful, plus Satisfactory has been out for longer; also let's not forget those numbers were announced before the $10 offer + sale, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a lot higher now. Outselling Metro Exodus however, does surprise me, even if Last Light did poorly and with the majority of the sales being on consoles.
     
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  5. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    And Sanctum 2 flopped, so...
     
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  6. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    It's bad enough when someone is such a pompous faggot that he insists on italicizing every single computer game title mentioned in his forum posts, but MuscleSpark has taken it too far by italicizing shit that shouldn't be, like company names.

    Just cut it out, man. You're not a writer, you're not an editor, and if you're an English major then you shouldn't be trying to broadcast such shameful information to all and sundry.
     
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  7. Belegarsson Erudite Patron

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    Mordhau sold that much in a week, Risk of Rain 2 sold 1 mil in a month (granted there was a buy one get two deal at the first few days but still), Forager stays at between 200k - 500k 1.5 months after release and that game has much less buzz than Satisfactory. This game can easily shift way more copies considering it belongs to a genre that has an incredibly huge playerbase, the fact that it managed to sell 500k proved that it's a quality game, imagine how much more it can sell with good word of mouth.
     
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    Blaine, be nice.
     
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  9. Silentstorm Learned

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    Sometimes, things are more popular than they seem, they just have fans that are more quiet than a few fandoms, and it seems like Satisfactory has one such fandom, i mean, they are on a store that quite a few people hate, so even if part of the sales only happened because of Epic's big sale, that is still impressive.

    Completely forgot about that game though, but that's mostly because i am not that big into games like Satisfactory rather than me being against Epic, sorry, just not that big into survival games, and even less first-person ones with anything resembling crafting, even Minecraft is a game i ended up playing very little of.

    It's certainly not the timed exclusive i care about the most, and speaking of caring, how many copies did Metro sell, or Hades, or Shakedown:Hawaii?
     
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  10. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    I like that this news has generated both "no way it sold that much they're lying" conspiracy theories AND "it should have sold more considering its genre" responses.
     
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  11. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    I only did it for the purpose of legibility, but now I might start doing it to annoy people. :lol:
     
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  12. BR4ZIL Novice

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    Well... its not like you can take any official news channels at face value nowadays (or ever, really).

    And since all the sites that do metrics point out to the game not doing that well, it is suprising that apparently there are legit reasons for the game to sell that much.
     
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  13. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    They're perfectly legible without any additional formatting. This is an Internet forum, not a formal document.

    I have no doubt you'll carry on doing it. I learned long ago that you can't stop people from being insufferable faggots.
     
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    You tell 'em. Never let anyone stifle your passion for etiquette and protocol, even in the face of overwhelming noogies, wedgies, and Chinese burns. Wrap yourself tight in a cloak of gentlemanly conduct, and even Blaine's flippant disregard for the simple niceties cannot penetrate it.
     
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  15. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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  16. Silentstorm Learned

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    Okay...is there a point to that image?

    Oh right, the italicization thing.
     
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  17. Ismaul Arcane Patron

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    Both positions are logically compatible.

    It is both possible that the sales number has been inflated because of Epic's guaranteed number of copies sold, and that it should've sold more than that inflated number.
     
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  18. Ismaul Arcane Patron

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    I like you Blaine, but in this you are wrong. This is a prestigious magazine.
     
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  19. ShadowSpectre Learned

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    Satisfactory might have actually sold 500,000+ copies. Sanctum/Sanctum 2/Goat Simulator sold millions of copies. The Steam sales and such factor in, but the Sanctum series is better than people have given it credit for. Both games are fun co-op or solo and look great. The FPS/TD hybrid works well with them. Sanctum 2 is actually an improvement over the first game, despite what people may think (if you play the second then go back to the first, you'll see once you get blocked by your own blocks/towers in your maze and how annoying it actually is relatively speaking). Goat Simulator sold more overall, maybe the numbers came from there, but Satisfactory is more like Sanctum and kinda like Factorio compared to Goat Simulator. I don't think it's total BS. I'd like to hope that Satisfactory is more Sanctum and less Goat Simulator at least. It's one of the few games that make me want to buy anything on the Epic Store. That and Hades. I haven't done it yet though seeing as I'm still irritated with the Epic Store as much as everyone else.
     
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  20. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    Epic Store nets another exclusive title: Shenmue III.

    Which wouldn't be interesting escept for all the promises they made about how it being released on Steam.

    The comments on the Kickstarter page are a deluge of anger.
     
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  21. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Everyone who endorses the tower defense genre in any way should be herded inside airtight concrete rooms and gassed.
     
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    It's the Phoenix Point shit storm but on an EPICâ„¢ scale this time.
     
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  24. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Deep Silver should reconsider.
    Picking a fight with weebs is not a battle they will win.
     
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