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Epic vs Steam - the console war comes to PC

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Tehdagah Arcane

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  2. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    Sure, Valve could run their company at break-even, they could even run it at a loss for absolutely no reason if they wanted to. Valve can do a lot of things. That's not what earning means though.
    Also you have to be really naïve (or dishonest) if you think Epic is able to offer all those free games and break-even on 12%, and aren't just loss-leading by taking advantage of their massive Fortnite coffers.
     
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  3. Tehdagah Arcane

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    Or they simply can reduce the % revenue for all games instead of just games that sell 500k+. Do they really need 30% from games that sell 10k units? It would be barely relevant for Valve, but a huge thing for small developers.

    Not relevant for consumers. Recently Amazon released their subsidized Prime service in my country and it's a much better deal the Netflix.
     
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  4. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    Relevant enough for them to not change it, as it seems. Also, not relevant for consumers. :^)

    As long as you realize that it's unsustainable in the long run then that's fine.
     
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  5. Fishy Educated

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    With apologies in advance for the stupid question, what does the Steam LGBTQ themed sale has to do with the discussion?
     
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  6. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    He's pointing out that blatant homophobes would rather use Steam with an LGBTQ themed sale than use Epic's featureless tencent store.
    Powerful.
     
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  7. The Decline Arcane

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    Seems like a plus on Steam's part. They provided a list of homo games for you to put on ignore.
     
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  8. Drakron Arcane

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    Not really.
    There are Winter Wolves titles there and those are ... well BioWare games as they have dating sims mechanics and because they are BioWare games they have same sex options, basically they dumped games that had similar things as well High School Romance that I think its a VN were the protagonist is male but forced to attend a all-girls school.
     
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  9. Wyatt_Derp Learned

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    Huh. For a second I coulda' swore that was the GOG home page.
     
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  10. normie Scholar Patron Zionist Agent

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    I'm confident Gabe will dedicate a whole sale holiday event for people like me who reject jumped up aberrants on principle and recognise them for the vectors of disease and dysfunction that they are

    we could have another Steam Grand Prix but with team normie vs team faggot - the signalling would get hot and heavy in the west, but team normie would have the blessings of Emperor of Jade, Xi Jinping! buy games and exchange tokens for all the pages of "Population Density and Social Pathology" by John Bumpass Calhoun, collect them all and learn about the concept of the "behavioral sink"!

    on the last day, win or lose, Gabe, who'd obviously be the patron of team normie, would then thank troons for volunteering to get out of the gene pool and do a special dedication to all the parents who course correct and make the decision for their children!
    STEAM! STEAM! STEAM! STEAM! STEAM! :bounce:
     
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  11. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    There's a strong "anti-SJW" contingent here for whom that's a point unto itself, somehow.
     
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  12. Mustawd Arcane

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    If understand correctly Fishy it shows the two pages from what I assume is a US based webpage and what happens if you view the same page but in China.

    In other words, China bans homosexual imagery in that page which shows how wrong people are who rail against free speech. Because it impedes on the very rights they are trying to protect and proselytize.
     
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  13. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    That would be a good point to make and I would apologize for my assumption, but I only see one image?

    Epic turning China cuck is definitely a concern, despite Sweeney's insistence otherwise.
     
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  14. Mustawd Arcane

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    Oops, I confused the this with the Blizzard thread. In retrospect, I guess the point was that Epic has lgbt sales or whatever. Personally, I find RPGMAKER game sales much more offensive.

    Anyhow, here’s the screenshot I was referring to (see below). Although, it’d be interesting if someone made a comparison between the US and the China EPIC websites.

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  15. Wyatt_Derp Learned

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    So lesson to gamers is this - You can have sweat shops, death camps, spy on consumers, and dump a billion gallons of toxic sludge into the ocean. But you better provide us with our fag entertainment or we're protesting!
     
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  16. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    I just wanted to play videogames.

    *grabs bayonet and jumps at chinese commando*
     
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  17. J1M Arcane

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    Pretty embarrassing if you log in to the sale page and don't see most of those on ignore already...

    Maybe I should make a rainbow game. The bar seems pretty low.
     
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  18. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Still trying to make it about "muh features" after you clearly admitted that people would rather pirate than buy on anything that's not Steam.

    Hard to let go of Gaben's dick from your mouth.
     
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  19. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    I don't understand the argument. Are the two things mutually exclusive?
     
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  20. Reinhardt Arcane

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    He's feeling dem rads
     
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  21. Reinhardt Arcane

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    I heard Kindred Spirits is ok vn. Everything else in this list is just low effort gaijin garbage i woldn't touch even for free. Epic store material.
     
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  22. Perkel Arcane

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    Explain why everyone despite having ridiculously different models of operation have the same cut.
    The answer: You can't.

    30% cut made sense when physical stores asked for ~50%.
    Since they are going way of dodo now 30% if new standard and competition looks for upseting that standard.
     
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  23. normie Scholar Patron Zionist Agent

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    operating on tencent/fortnite bux, payouts for exclusives, operating at a loss, leaking and selling userdata and not having a shopping cart?
     
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  24. Reinhardt Arcane

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    10 reasons why
    is a good thing!
     
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  25. Perkel Arcane

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    I know capitalism thing is awesome. Company reinvests profits from one thing into another hoping they will succeed. Good goy fight for multibilion $ companies for their right to get 30% instead of less.

    Also it is kind of hilarious that physical stores run now 30% cut despite hiring shitload of people, care for distribution, marketing and 1000 other things while digital stores have none of that and yet cut 30% too.

    And the shopping cart argument is the best. In era of digital goods and 1click purchases you apparently need shopping cart.
     
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