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Epic vs Steam - the console war comes to PC

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by LESS T_T, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Perkel Arcane

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    Hmmm idk, i guess making input resolve server side would do the trick. But it would add latency.
     
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  2. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    Worked well for Denuvo with hiring ex-crackers, at least in the beginning.
     
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  3. abija Liturgist

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    Do you try to understand what you say/post from time to time at least?
     
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  4. Perkel Arcane

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    Do you understand what "idk" stands for ?

    But yeah picture scripts would be hard to deal with. I am guessing AI deep learning can fix those as it can basically notice if someone is playing differently than what human player could play.
     
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  5. TheSentinel Arcane

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    You aren't fixing the supply side of the problem. You think you're the first person to think of and implement these revolutionary ideas in 20 years of widespread online games? Jesus christ dude use your fucking brain.
    I even posted a video where you have a fucking Valve employee addressing all of these issues. You're not Einstein. Valve has thought of everything you'll ever think of and more. Additionally, they've implemented all of it and know it isn't effective.
     
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  6. Drakron Arcane

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    It reminds me of Captcha that got so insane that to prove you were human that solving it was more proving you were a script since no fucking way people could recognize that as letters.
    In a way its amusing things are getting to the point where people have to prove they are not cheating, every time they try to "up" the game with anti-cheating all they do is making scripts more advanced because the program cannot tell were exactly how commands were input, only they were ... you could try to make it so things that are simply impossible for humans to do (like perfect hit-scan shoots for example) or that should be outside the design (such as BDO speed-hacks) would be recognizable as cheating but this leads to a question, if you are making a game and making it so people dont automate it then ... what game is that? a boring repetitive game people rather not play and will automate instead?

    And since its nearly 2020 were Games as Live Services are common ... we know the answer to that question. Not saying there will never competitive games were people wont cheat but ... its reaching the point were they are demanding blood and urine samples of all players before the game even starts.
     
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  7. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Co-op is far, far worse than competitive multiplayer.

    I don't want to rely on other retards when I play a game in multi. I want to fight against other retards. Co-op vs AI is shit and not fun.
     
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  8. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Codex needs co-op tb blobber with 8+ characters in party.
     
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  9. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    Solution: find some friends who are not retards and play co-op with them. I can't even imagine why would anyone play co-op with random strangers.
     
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  10. Reinhardt Arcane

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    I tried once to play icewind dale 2 with 3 friends. It was one of the most retarded things i did in my life.
     
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  11. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    I prefer playing PvP with friends, it's more fun than co-op vs AI.

    Or co-op vs other players in team PvP.
     
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  12. Perkel Arcane

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    I think i should be more clear. Multiplayer with friends not some randos from net.
    Whatever you play against or with, playing with randos is total crap.
     
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  13. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Eh, I had some fun playing on decent RO2 servers and playing AoE2 1v1 vs randos.
     
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  14. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/devolver-boss-defends-steam-amid-epic-store-and-ex/1100-6470544/

     
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  15. Biscotti Learned Patron

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    I was with him until the part where he mentions exclusivity and then uses consoles as an example. Gee, what could've possibly been the outlier here before EGS came along? One has to wonder.
     
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  16. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    Codex 2014 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy
    "More than a decade ago", "more than a decade ago"... Steam's been around for 16 years, for fuck's sake. Is that too hard to grasp?

    The thing I take away from that article is that now that game dev/publishers finally have a stable (but monopolized) platform to release PC games from, they've gotten greedier than ever and want moar.
     
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  17. JBro Savant

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    Of course. Everyone thought publishers were the big bad guy, but it turns out developers aren't better. In many ways they're worse, because how many times have you seen some subhuman like Rami Ismail try to convince people that Steam is the bad guy? Meanwhile, he wears his contempt for all of us on his sleeve. Fuck developers. I hope they never get unions.
     
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  18. MuscleSpark Savant Patron

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    I understand the sentiment, but on the other hand unions would balloon budgets to such extents that it might result in an industry crash overnight.
     
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  19. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Sadly, it's rare for people to keep their principles intact when money is on offer.
     
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  20. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    It's almost like their goal is to make money and "sell it on the store I like" isn't a heroic moral stand.
     
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  21. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    https://www.pcgamesn.com/surviving-the-aftermath/valve-epic

     
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  22. Squadcar Learned

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    BETRAYAL!!!! :argh::argh::argh: RAGE!!! :argh::argh::argh: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SURVIVING THE AFTERMATH IS!!! :argh::argh::argh:
     
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  24. ZVERMIX Learned Patron

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    :stabbedintheback:
     
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  25. V_K Arcane

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    They were probably talking about money. The more money, the merrier.
     
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