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Europa Universalis IV

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by raw, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Civ4 has slavery. You can kill your own people to rush construction.

    It's models Egyption style slavery, not more modern forms, but they have slavery.
     
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  2. Bradylama Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    How exactly is Judaism going to spread as a religion when it's based on matrilineal descent? Mass rape? Well played, Jews.
     
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  3. Grinolf Cipher

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    Khazars are actually converted to Judaism. But Paradox made them pagans instead, with some inane argumentations.
    There is also a story about Rus convertion from paganism, where the Rus Prince decided to study various abrahamic religions and choose from them one. In that story Khazars advocated for Rus convertion to Judaism, but being refused, since Jew God didn't help jews to defend their homeland.
    Well, even if it is a real story and not some pretty legend, such convertion would be highly unlikely, since Vladimir really wanted to marry Byzantine princess. But still such stiry exists.
     
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  4. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    The Khazar line of Paradox is more historically accurate though, since Khazaria remained a multi-ethnic and multi-religious state better represented by the majority's pagan beliefs. Only the elites converted to Judaism.
     
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  5. The Brazilian Slaughter Arcane

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    Fixed.
     
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  6. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    And the province's religion is meant to indicate elite conversion/acceptance of your religion, not what the peasant masses still believe.
     
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  7. Sranchammer Arcane

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    After reading interviews from the MEIOU and D&T modders, I'm getting the vibes they don't like EU4 much
     
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  8. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Gotta be annoying making huge mods with tons of good stuff for EU3, then seeing EU4 come out and mostly being an EU3 re-skin with a few random poorly-implemented changes and the ugly 3d map.
     
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  9. raw Arcane Patron

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    There are a couple of issues with some of the systems, yes. EUIV was turned into more of a warfare simulator than it already was.
     
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  10. Grinolf Cipher

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    No, it is your position on Khazars religion. Paradox position: "We could add Judaism. But latter we would need to add new content for that religion and we don't want it. So we better make Khazars pagans and forget about it." Yes it is real Paradox official position on that matter.

    About your position. CK2 is a game about elite, and only elite properly represented there. What commoners belive isn't really important. But conversion chance for judaism missionary could be reduced to the level of unreformed pagans or even further. So there would not be a large areas converted to Judaism.
     
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  11. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    And there we get into the phobia Paradox has, which would be angry reactions to their game allowing people to kill Jews.

    EDIT: Anyway guys, here's the other alternative flag for Karelia, say which you like better:

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. RedScum Arbiter Patron

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    Not sure, but i think i like the first one more.
     
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  13. Tzaero DEPARTED Patron

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  14. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    I am glad we're all in agreement. Now, back to testing out colonization patterns.

    Also, I've been wondering about what shenanigans the Sunset Invasion thing is supposed to do. Anyone checked?
     
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  15. RedScum Arbiter Patron

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    http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/08/14/t...s-ii-to-europa-universalis-iv-save-converter/

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    Well, could be a nice source of mixing up the game, but not exactly in my interests. At most, High American could form the basis of a pagan tech group for Eastern Europe if I ever got assed enough to do that.

    EDIT: Also, anyone figured out what you need to add to the .mod file in order to use a separate save directory for the mod's saves? Not that necessary, but could be a nice thing.
     
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  17. Raghar Arcane

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    You need to create flag for Kalamari union. You know that flag from Daiteikoku.
     
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  18. Kaldurenik Arcane Patron

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    So what area of the map are you working on now?
     
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  19. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    I'm pretty satisfied with the map of Europe now, so once my test campaign proceeds long enough I'll start work on reworking some of the colonial nations, namely in North America.
     
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  20. Sranchammer Arcane

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    Wow, 50 events!
     
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  21. Grinolf Cipher

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    Meh. I didn't yet play to the time, when it becomes relevant. Patch on the other hand looks very desirable, since it will eliminate many existed exploits.

    Also, there is already one Ryukyu world conquest, that show how exploitable and silly EU games are still are. No need to say, that Johan posted some changelog right in that thread.
     
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  22. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Exploiting games is half the fun, the other half is figuring out how to exploit games.
     
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  23. suejak Arbiter Patron Village Idiot

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    It's shocking that Judaism isn't in the game at all, but it would be a lot of work for such a relatively small population.
     
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  24. Grinolf Cipher

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    Some of the exploits are too obvious now. Like that gap in coalition mechanic, that allow to divide coalition members with truces. I don't think, that there are players who not use it, since it very easy to find out, that not always all members of coalition join to war and why they are didn't join.
     
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