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Europa Universalis IV

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by raw, Aug 10, 2012.

  1. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I was speaking purely of military effect, not strategic decisions. If you want to talk about those, you have to also consider the US oil embargo which massively affected Japanese strategy throughout the war.
     
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  2. Malakal Arcane

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    But then point is there was no available oil in the Siberia then so Japan didnt have much choice - it was either import from USA (which would have then to supply a militaristic power in its conquests - unlikely) or invade Indonesia and that meant war with European nations and USA in the long term. Ultimately Japan has no real choice unless it diverted all of its industry to land forces and focused on unmechanized warfare in Siberia - not only military suicide but also unfeasible as far as Japaense politics are concerned.
     
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  3. darkpatriot Arcane

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    So about that randomized new world thing. They mention it is a completely randomized American continent, with the example given that it might be just a few islands to stopover on the way to India. It seems to me that the technology behind this feature wasn't developed solely for use in this DLC. Which causes me to speculate a little bit about what other projects they might currently be working on. Might it be a game with randomized maps and not their normal historical grand strategy games? Some 4x grand strategy game perhaps? Whether sci-fi, fantasy, or some sort of quasi-historical setting?

    I sure hope so because that would be the tits. I've often wanted to play games with paradox gameplay that aren't historical simulators. Games where each game could be radically different(and unknown to the player beforehand) instead of being the same starting scenario every time.
     
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  4. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    The devs have mentioned it would be rather easy for a modder to apply the randomization to the entirety of the map, so there's that.
     
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  6. BelisariuS.F Augur

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  7. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Ya should have handed over Danzig
     
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  8. Raghar Arcane

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    Wasn't Poland called micro great power? Aka country that couldn't have chance to be a great power, but who is acting as one. Then two real great powers decided they had enough, and as everyone expected there was no Poland anymore.
     
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  9. Grinolf Cipher

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    When side, that was defeated, abadon all plans for furher expansion in that region and get impressive number of casualities, that were politically killed, then one could say that that side was not only beaten but also humilated.
    The fact, that someone in Japan military wanted to continue the conflict, look more like attempt to save face after fiasco, than viable military strategy.

    It is absurd thing to say, that handing over Danzing to Germany could somehow prevent WW2. Although that dude was still right about Poland leadership being delusional incompetent dicks, who had some big friends and thought, that said friends would care even slightly about Poland well-being. Not sure why poles becoming so angry, when someone stated that.
     
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  10. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    ya know, i have had this same idea for awhile, of a Paradox fantasy empire building strategy game EU-Crusaders melding clone thing.
     
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  11. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    that happened alot to Poland throughout history.
     
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  12. Serus Arcane

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    What ? If you mean the partitions in late 1700s the situation was the exact oposite, Poland was already practically a vassal of Russia for decades, with no army to speak of and no ambitions. Nothing in common with the situation above. And what other "alot" are you babling about i have not the slightest idea. Luzur - you of all people giving this ignorant crap... sad.

    To Raghar: the word you are looking is "geopolitics".

    Can we go back to the subject - EU IV i think it was.
     
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  13. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    In before someone proposes a Poland partition historical event.
     
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  14. Sranchammer Arcane

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    Why not? If the right parameters are met, a large nation should be able to be broken down
     
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  15. Malakal Arcane

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    Because there is no need for that, in some situations all nations can and do get partitioned by their neighbors. Often happens with Poland, Bohemia, sometimes even Austria and France.
     
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  16. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    so, you where not invaded alot by other great powers during your history then? man, all those history books must be lies then.
     
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  17. Malakal Arcane

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    No Poland was not invaded a lot by great powers. Not before 1650s. Ukraine was raided and attacked by Muslims and Lithuania was raided and attacked by Russians but thats it. Some border conflicts with the Teutonic Order maybe but they never reached very far into the Polish lands.
     
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  18. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    but anyway, should i have refrased it as "that happened alot to Poland after 1650" then?

    but it doesnt matter, onward with the EU discussion.
     
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  19. Malakal Arcane

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    Again those were border wars that did not in any way influence Polish territories. And some of them can hardly be called invasions of Poland.
     
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  20. poocolator Erudite

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  21. Grinolf Cipher

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    Look like the old names would be randomly given to new provinces.
     
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  22. raw Arcane Patron

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    a completely randomized EU would be ace. it puts exploration where exploration belongs.
     
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  23. Borelli Arcane

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    Your colonies being your "vassals" instead of your territories i like. Will totally change the feel of the colonization game for the better IMO. Randomized map sounds ... interesting but to this point it wasn't a Paradox's thing.
    Sweden is not a great power.:troll:
     
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  24. Luzur Prestigious Gentleman Good Sir

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    :troll::balance::hearnoevil::avatard::x
     
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  25. Raghar Arcane

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    Well list of great powers of 1900 is this:
    Brittish Empire
    US
    Germany
    France
    Habsburk monarchy
    Russia

    Sweden isn't in that list. However when we are looking at list of EU powers of 1600...
     
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