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Evaluation of various trends among KS and post-KS-era isometric RPGs

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by luj1, Apr 9, 2019.

  1. luj1 You're all shills

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    (e.g. the wave of fantasy titles that capitalized on nostalgia such as PoE, DOS, PK, TToN, Tyranny, etc.)

    • Rich visual presentation (Neutral)
    • Feature bloat (cooking, fishing, sailing, camping, other minigames, etc.) (Bad)
    • Comprehensive voice overs (Bad - waste of time, energy, resources)
    • QoL improvements (Good - no downside)
    • Visibility and transparency of "back end" combat feedback, stat calculations, etc. (Good)
    • Slick and functional UI (Good)
    • Companion-oriented gameplay (Neutral)
    • Accessibility at the expense of core systems (Very bad)
    • Lack of distinctive art direction (Bad)
    • Music and audio quality (Good)
    • Exposition and "lore dumps" (Bad)
    • ???


    Discuss.
     
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  2. Anthedon Arcane Patron

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    • they mostly make use of the Unity engine (very bad)
     
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  3. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    I'm starting to come around to voice acting. I'll still play the classics in a heartbeat but in my older age I'm starting to like some of this new-fangled stuff.
     
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  4. Tweed Learned

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    Romance (doubleplusungood)
     
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  5. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    • Isometric perspective (bad)
     
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  6. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    At this point, yeah. I do think it's better than what we used to have, which was everything being awkward OTS third person that prevents any kind of tactical combat.
     
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  7. Chippy Liturgist

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    They were all shit?.
     
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  8. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Tired of seeing this repeated. It's not the engine, it's the (lack of) programmers by the development teams.
     
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  10. Dorateen Arcane

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    Requiring the player to pay if they want a custom party, via Adventurers Guild (PoE) or however they did it in P:KM. This trend was also perpetuated in Bard's Tale IV, with their moronic Mercenary Tokens.

    Because apparently kickstarter generation cannot handle making more than one character from the very start.
     
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  11. J1M Arcane

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    There's nothing I hate more in modern RPGs than companions. They are intentionally crafted to be mechanically dull. They talk way too much about things I don't care about, and rarely are they the type of person that would survive a camping trip, let alone an adventure.

    If the system is interesting, I want to experiment with it, which means party creation.

    I'm also completely open to being given specific characters for specific segments of the game if they are mechanically interesting. But developers, nobody wants to read your prose. Just stop.
     
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  12. Excommunicator Arcane

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    In summary

    Good visuals
    Average audio
    Average mechanics
    Bad writing
     
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  13. luj1 You're all shills

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    Yeah, something like that.

    I'd say most of them had elaborate visuals (albeit without a particular art direction), good music, audio, everything voice acted, modern interface...

    However, the only incline among that were UI and QoL improvements.
     
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