Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

The real Fallout 3/4 lives: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-08-inxile-fallout-van-buren-trademark

 

Really interesting. Quite interesting. That's very interesting.

Got a few laughs: "Civilization is rebuilding, which is something not seen in Fallout series before!" "This will likely be the player's home, just like Vault whatever in Fallout 3!" "Will have a family feel just like 3 ... will make it an emotional experience just like 3" or words to those effects. Alright, but went for too long.

 

AFAIK it's the publisher/dev who decides on discounts.

 

I clearly remember buying NV Ultimate Edition for 8 bucks some time ago, so I'm not sure it is the best sale.

 

"Bethesda. Bethesda never changes."

I wonder what Bethesda does with all of their money. They certainly don't invest much more than 20 dollars into game production.

 

Todd needs that spankin new lambo son.





I wonder what will happen with New Vegas tho? Will it become non-canon? New Vegas was all a dream?

 

Since it was released as a "spinoff", many butthurt bethtards "fans" think NV is not 100% canon, even though its story continues 1, 2 and even 3.
But in this day and age of special snowflakes, canon is whatever you want it to be.

 

Most likely Bethesda won't touch it or make any reference to it, so as to avoid pissing people off. I can't see any scenario in which they'd retcon the entire thing into nonexistence.

 

Maybe Fallout 4 will begin with your character waking up from a dream about New Vegas.

 

@13:13, "players will be able to take flight, something that should now be possible due to current gen consoles."
We have a winner.

 

Why do people care about FO4? It's like caring about DAI after DA2 - oh, I see.

We will get exactly the game that we all expect.

 

I care to the extent that I wonder just how many mods it will take to make the game enjoyable. Moreover, I still have a small glimmer of hope that some parts of the game will be decent.

 

So when will the prestigious magazine interview Todd nad Pete?

 

One of the things (well, maybe the only thing) I liked about this trailer. Bethesda staying the fuck away from west coast, maybe just leaving it for better developers. There were some theories that F4 is going to take place in Montana or even Seattle, that got me worried that Beth could be going to fuck up lore of the west. Decent lore and quest design are basically only things I hope for after turning franchise into hiking sim and popamole.

 

Yeah but did he ever achieve his dream of rainfall leading to realistic puddle formation and flooding and shit?

 

There's a difference between explaining a rationale and defending it. Jaesun said "for whatever reason", implying that there was no substantial reason for Moira to survive the bomb. I saw an obvious reason and explained it. That's it.

What, you think Todd Howard and Bethesda are pure, satanic, anti-paladin eeeevil? You're no better than the designers who give you the "choices" of puppy kicking and kitten saving. There's room for thoughtful discussion about their stupid designs, even on the Codex.

 

http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=218

 

Consequence is kind of the main thing that builds replay value, yes. Whether i kill the humans in tenpenny tower for the ghouls to come in or not doesn't really make any difference, and aside from 3dog's comments on the radio and some karma gain/loss it's a pointless decision.

It's hard to explain but i truely believe Bethesda are completely autistic when it comes to creating a game from a story-telling perspective, it just feels that whatever they try to do is barren.
I mean i can actually imagine their dev meetings going something like
"- So we're building an open world but we have to have these things called quests so the person playing doesn't just throw the game away when he's bored of exploring, so these quests how do we do them?
- Oh we can make something about vampires in, throw a romanian refference, some uber items and make maybe a dramatic buildup or something?
- Maybe a quest about robots with souls and how they're being oppressed but there's a hipster group that wants to protect them, it's like terminator meets the iron giant".

I never felt any of the "factions", characters, etc, maybe some quest ideas were good at the start but hardly any are memorable or interesting and most of the time the choice you do make to bring an end to a quest simply falls down to whether bethesda wants to make you rp someone good (positive karma) or bad (negative karma).

It doesn't even compare to New Vegas, i remember finishing Dead Money actually made me sad and i found all the characters therein to be fucking great. NV had things that irked me as well - HH being kind of soulless (i presume it's Sawyer's hand though i actually think highly of Sawyer as a game dev on some aspects), not really being able to empathize with Ulysses - whom i suspect the devs wanted to seem a lot more complex than he actually is as well, OWB going a bit too dumb with their humour (which i enjoyed up to a point), etc.

Idk how you find F3 to be replayable once you get bored of exploring unless you really want to roleplay somone bad after roleplaying someone good.

Link me.

 

Holy fuck that was an amazing read

 

Man those bethesda elbows

 

When I saw that I started noticing all the deformed bodies in NV as well.

I mean, look at this

 

Thought that was a gif, kept waiting for his head to spin.