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Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by Daedalos, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Or I'm like the tens of millions of others who have played them and enjoyed them, rather than the vocal minority of a few hundred people on the Codex who like to smell their own farts and think Beth games are bad because lol edgy.
     
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  2. Okagron Erudite

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    The fucking shitty "argument" that somehow popularity makes the game immune to criticism. Following that idiotic logic, we should only criticize games that bombed or weren't really popular.

    And people hate Bethesda games not because "lol edgy", they are genuinely bad. Far too many issues that are too easy to notice for the games to be "fine on their own". They are an afront to good game design and you are a major decline enabler for even defending them. You don't get to call anyone a decline enabler, which you have in the past, and defend some of the biggest cases of decline.
     
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  3. Black Angel Arcane

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    I don't think anyone here is actually saying that, except for a select few where modders gonna modders. What people saying here is that good mods doesn't automatically make a bad game good or redeem it whatsoever.
     
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  4. Squadcar Learned

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    "A million screaming fans could never be wrong!" Yeah okay, you tell me that about pop music, dietary choices, etc.

    Millions of people McDonalds everyday and so should I!
     
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  5. Loostreaks Learned

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    Didn't you brag about your outstanding IQ and how they had to move you into "advanced class", because you were so far ahead of the "normies"?
    But you somehow advocate for that deep and sophisticated design of Bethesda. :lol:
     
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  6. Black Angel Arcane

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    At this point, with every single posts just slightly criticize Beth's games for what they are being rated with fake news by Fluent, I hereby petition to tag him with [​IMG]
     
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  7. The Dutch Ghost Learned

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    Or the classic "Eat shit! Millions of flies can't be wrong."

    In all seriousness as vanilla games they are poor hiking simulators, showing you places that may be interesting from a distance but the moment you get closer you realize how much potential at world building and plot writing has been wasted because the writers A. Couldn't write themselves out of a wet bag, and/or B. Bethesda's design team (and probably marketing) thinks Fallout is all about the recycled elements from Fallout 1 and 2. (BOS, FEV, Super Mutants, Ghouls, Enclave, Vault Boy, oh and 50s pop culture which apparently the US got stuck in after World War 2)

    Yesterday I visited a game store to see if they had any decent games for sale. In a cabinet in the corner they had a load of vault boy statues in various poses. All I could feel was sadness as I looked at his happy smile.
    He/Fallout got killed, stuffed, and put on display.
     
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  8. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Fucking mongo
     
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  9. Black Angel Arcane

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    Especially considering that none of Beth's Fallouts has Slayer, which is a must-have perk for barbarians build.
     
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  10. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    I'd rather be that then whatever hideous beast you are.
     
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  11. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Typical mongo
     
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  12. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Not gonna say I agree they're great games, but Codex does hate on them to a more extreme degree than they deserve for the most part (after playing them for 100 hours of course). I think it's because Daggerfall, Morrowind and the original Fallouts they had nothing to do with are all classics, and their newer games are more derpy sandbox explorefag games, and the butthurt over that is real. I feel it myself, Oblivion and Fallout 3 especially were like a wet hot stream of piss on my face at the time. I think Skyrim is a good bit better than those, far from perfect but better, however some can't get past the pain. Fallout 4 getting more derpy again didn't help. Telling us "mainsteam who never played Fallout or Daggerfall like 'em dudes!" doesn't really change anything.
     
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  13. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Is Far Harbor worth playing?
     
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  14. jf8350143 Learned

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    Yes, it's the best content the game has to offer. Better than any other DLC and the base game.
     
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  15. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Dead State Divinity: Original Sin
    I think it's ok. Probably the best DLC for Fallout 4.
     
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  16. Wunderbar Arcane

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    Far Harbor is good.
    Skill checks, decently written factions, morally ambiguous characters, sort of reputation system, actual recurring themes instead of crudely lumped fanservice and lolrandom humor. Everything feels cohesive - the island has its own lore, monsters are thematically fitting - instead of supermutants and shit we're going to meet giant hermit crabs, mutant shrimps and other coastal and marine fauna. Devs even came up with half decent reason for raiders to be murderous assholes.

    This DLC made me feel optimistic for the future of series, but then F76 happened.
     
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  17. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Might as well play the Vegas mod that Far harbour copies or whatever.
     
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  18. Wunderbar Arcane

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    it was just a small sidequest, Far Harbor's main plot is different.
     
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  19. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    To be fair it was a side project mostly developed by a different team entirely. The actual BGS we know and love (to hate) have been working on Starwhatever the whole time.
     
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  20. HarveyBirdman Learned

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    Is it actually worth playing? Like for real? I wouldn't mind having some C&C interspersed with DOOM combat.
     
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  21. Wunderbar Arcane

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    it is worth playing. Dunno where you read about doom combat though.
     
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  22. HarveyBirdman Learned

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    Combat feels like shitty DOOM: rather fluid (the one positive), unload a bunch of ammo, run straight into enemies without dying, etc.
     
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  23. Assisted Living Godzilla Savant

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    Bethesda Games Studio makes some pretty horrendous shit. They make action games, and I'm not saying they're bad because they're action games, because I love action games; but when the driving force behind your game is "go to this place and kill shit" the killing shit part of your game should at least be good.

    I think the design of their games can ingratiate hate more than most styles of games, they're mindless time sinks that people can get pretty deep into before asking themselves: Why the fuck am I playing this? Funnily enough it seems like even their audience hit this point with Fallout 76. Bethesda's Games Studio's seemingly steadfast commitment to never improving the flaws of their games doesn't help anything either. It's going to be interesting to see their upcoming stuff, because it sounds like even their most staunch fans are demanding changes now; and the shit that does what they're doing in one way or another has just been compiling over the years, and getting more high profile.
     
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  24. Yosharian Cipher

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    The problem with Far Harbour is that it's attached to Fallout 4. Last time I played the game, by the time I got around to FH, I'd already done most of Fallout 4 main quests, and all of Nuka World (bleh), so I was about ready to throw my computer in the bin.
     
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  25. Xeon Liturgist

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    Didn't they say the delay of TES6 was mostly because of TES Online? Fallout 5 probably won't be out for 10 or something years because of 76 even tho it sucked.
     
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