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Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by Daedalos, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. baturinsky Arcane

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    Back to armor DR.
    In damage formula, damage is divided by DR power 0.366
    Which means that damage reduction from DR is roughly cubic, you need 8 as much DR to to take half as much damage
     
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  2. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Gave me nice memories to Star Trek III, where disruptor pistols became rifles with snap ons. (there was a design for phasers as well that got never used)

    With all the effort they put into the Prydwen arrival and already almost unavoidable helping Buzz Lightyear early, the player is definitly urged to go BoS on his first run. We are the good guys! Bonus points for consoletards only knowing the FO3 Bruddahood and expecting the same here. Powah Armoah! Manning the vrrrtibrrrd minigun! PA delivery service!
    At least it gives you some nice "wait, what am I doing here?" moments when you "help the people of the commonwealth" by taking settlement resources by force, and irradicating every ghoul or synth (and their allies) on sight.
    You are not here to think maggot! Trust in your superiors, they know better than you lowlife wastelander. Hoorah! Ad Vicky!:salute:
    Plus there is the nice twist with Paladin Derp on top of it. Thanks for the nice coat Maxon, you don't need it anymore riiiite?

    If anything I would compare them to Skyrim's Stormcloaks, who you get pushed towards from the start, only to realize that Ulfric is just manipulating the sheeple for his own gains.
    Of course, once again using your brain should make you ditch them halfway in. Meaning 99% of Xbone players unlocked "The nukular option" achievment first.

    The way I understood it, having equal or more DR than the dmg received makes you take only 50% dmg, then the higher the difference is, the closer you get to 85%. I noticed taking close to no dmg in T1 leather armor against raiders, but that might be also because of level difference. So theoretically I could run with my armor until the end if I add the best weaves to my jumpsuit later.

     
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  3. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    I actually sided with the BoS as well.
    From a story perspective it makes sense; they are against the Institute.
    The Institute took the main character's son. Ergo, the BoS, due to their equipment, are ideal allies.
    I totally plan on ditching them at some point though. Not too found of their "Obey all orders, and purge the Unclean, Battlebrother" schtick.

    I like though how Danse tells you that he is going to watch you at all times to make sure you obey orders, and that merc work is off the table, and then lets you fuck off with their rare suit of powered armor and do your own thing.
    I can imagine him on the blimp's bar thinking, "man, that new recruit has been in the bathroom for a while. I still don't understand why he needed his armor"
     
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  4. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I certainly makes the most sense when you are about to enter the institute. The greasemonkey in Sucktuary building that hightech machine from scratch was so ridiculous I couldn't stop banging my head on the table.

    For science I tried ignoring cambridge until the blimp arrives, but it feels completely off then. With all those vertibird crashing in the landscape they could have just waved their hands and be extracted. So no, you have to help them before to conserve precious immershun... Even if you help them and just delay joining, they will stand there in the entrance and not move an inch until you join.
    Going back to the blimp? Naaaah, we are waiting for the Chosen1 to join us first! I totally know he will, I have seen him in my dreams!
    Derpy doesn't even comment on you wearing Powah Armoah when you first meet him. Quality writing as usual.
     
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  5. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    He doesn't?
    Well, that's lame. I was actually thinking the other day what his reaction would be if you went to the Police Station in T45 armor
    Beth's inattention to detail is awe-inspiring.
     
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  6. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    It's worse than Fo3, then - approaching Outcasts in power armor would at least get you different dialogue from their usual "lol tribals gonna trib"
     
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  7. Grimlorn Arcane

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    So Fallout 4. Great game or greatest game ever?
     
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  8. an Administrator Self-Ejected

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    5.3 user rating on metacrits, probably the best game ever in history...
     
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  9. Curious_Tongue Larpfest Patron

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    Fallout 4 is to Fallout 3 as Skyrim is to Oblivion.
     
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  10. Lhynn Arcane

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    No it isnt, its actually the opposite.
     
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  11. Lord Carlos Wafflebum Aspiring Infinitron Patron

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    Has anyone asked Legion what he thinks of Fallout 4?
     
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  12. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Problem is I don't know who Legion is. Mayhaps Legion sees this in his inbox and make a showing.
     
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  13. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    So, I just played that part where you go to the Memory Den.
    I think that sequence might be the best bit of writing and character development in the game.
    It was pretty basic, but it was competently done.

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    Kellogg should have been the main character. Playing through his story would have been more interesting that Lone Wanderer II's Boston adventure. Beth just can't make a game with a make-your-own-hero-and-backstory feature. Kellogg, who has an established back story, would be more interesting. It would most certainly have been another shooter, but all of Beth's games are like that, so really nothing lost there.
    Also, Shi.
     
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  14. Perkel Arcane

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    Gone back to FNV for another playtrough.

    Will wait for proper mods to expand base building aspect of game and probably will never finish actual main quest (and most of sidequests for that matter)...

    Maybe some new world space...

    Or maybe modders will port FNV into Fallout 4 engine..
     
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  15. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    And that is why they should have just let you play as Kellogg
     
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  16. 28.8bps Modem Prophet

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    Just like Tamriel has been in technological stasis for hundreds of years, so will the Fallout world be. You'll never not be from a vault, the currency will always be bottle caps, there'll always be the brotherhood and super mutants and ghouls. It's the Bethesda MO.
     
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  17. Gerrard Arcane

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    What's even more funny is that random NPCs do.
     
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  18. Curious_Tongue Larpfest Patron

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    What? You think Fallout 3 is superior to Fallout 4?
     
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  19. Lemming42 Arcane

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    Fallout 3 had (badly done) branching quests, (badly done) alternate solutions to quests, (badly done) different builds with different ways to use your skillset, reasonably well-done exploration in the usual Bethesda style and, perhaps, a slightly bigger world map. It certainly felt denser than Fo4.

    Fallout 4 has none of those things, unless you count the crap CHA checks you get once in a blue moon. The only thing that's notably better than in Fo3 is the combat (which still basically sucks), everything else is a step down. I guess the story and setting are less outright offensively bad than in 3, but at least 3 has the hideous B-movie "we've got to stop these people fixing the purifier we want fixed" thing going on, Fo4 is just thoroughly boring.
     
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  20. Lord Carlos Wafflebum Aspiring Infinitron Patron

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    All the new gimmicks and features seem to be based at least partially on the most popular Fallout 3/NV and Skyrim mods without them really understanding why said mods were popular. This has resulted in a game that is mostly enjoyable, but without any heart thus making it get boring relatively quickly.

    My guess is that they had no idea what they actually wanted to do with the franchise, hence why they contracted Obsidian to do a follow-up to 3 in the hopes they'd steer the franchise in a workable direction. Lacking the writing ability and inspiration, they tried a bastardization of F3 and NV plots to an awkward delivery that by necessity results in a very narrow/ non-existant story branch.

    I believe the update to the mechanics of the game range from ok to good, with the exception of dialouge. I'm hoping they'll contract out another spinoff ala NV style to another developer (even if it isn't Obsidian) to ideally turn what's a good but underwhelming game into something that has good gameplay and depth.

    Let's hope Bethesda is open to criticism. If they are, the next iteration or spinoff could be a thoroughly enjoyable game. If not, I have significant concerns that future Fallout and Elder Scrolls installments are going to suffer to a point where mods won't even make the games worth playing. Fallout 4 DLC will likely be a sign of what the future of these IP's will be. Let's hope they were serious about fan feedback shaping Fallout 4 DLC...
     
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  21. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Fallout 4 is the better shooter. Fallout 3 had better 'RPG elements' which is saying something...
     
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  22. Lhynn Arcane

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    What? You dont?
    :what:
     
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  23. Curious_Tongue Larpfest Patron

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    Did you play the fucking game?
     
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  24. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    Fallout 4 is way better than 3. What the fuck.

    Way more "mods will fix it" potential.
     
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  25. Lhynn Arcane

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    So all the roleplaying elements replaced with better quality shooting and autist awareness systems make for a better game.
     
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