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Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by Daedalos, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Maybe. Then again on very hard they hit a lot harder even without it.
     
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  2. baturinsky Arcane

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    DR in F4 is kinda weird http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_Resistance , but I kinda like it. Very high DR is only really much better against big Alpha-damage, like Missiles and Fat Man. So, concentrated fire or DOT can still easily kill you. On the plus side, it means that you will always have to think and in combat.

    If you want to be really tanky, Endurance stat is better bet, because it gives linear bonus, scaling with level. 10 Endurance means nearly three times HP as 1 Endurance on high level. On the other hand, food still gives same amount of HP, so you will want to get Medicine perk and rely on Stims.

    Back to PA, I like it for
    1. High Ballistic, Energy and Radiation res, obviously
    2. 11 Strength
    3. Useful mods, such as Calibrated Shocks (+~90 inventory space), VATS enhancing helmet and, of cause, Jetpack
    4. Ease of switching between combat and Charisma attire.
     
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  3. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    Ah, you are playing on Very Hard? That's probably it.
    Bethesda idea of difficulty is bullshit. Receiving more damage is fine, but receiving tons of damage and dealing way less? Piss off with that nonsense.
     
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  4. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I found a normal combat rifle with the same effect on a legendary mudcrab. It's pretty odd tho, since it does not drain the ammo count faster than a normal one, it just twitches more, so I guess the dmg per shot is just doubled? The tommygun with the same effect is unusable even fully modded, you can't hit shit with that twitching unless you shove it up the enemy's nose...
    Same way the cameleon effect on armors is more trouble than it's worth: pipboy becomes unreadable and you can't see your ironsights anymore.
    And the assault rifle's purpose eludes me all together. It's worse than a combat rifle but uses ultra rare ammo.

    In fact I found a lot of good armor/weapon parts just from legendary mobs, so it might be worth it using a mod to increase their spawnrate on standard difficulty. I am opposed upping the difficulty, because it just makes them bulletsponges. Sniper molotovs are already bad enough as it is.
    Sadly most of the time it's metal or raper armor, y u no drop liek leather?

    Fusion cores for me were like the special scroll/ammo/weapon you save for the hard fights, yet you never use in the end. Most dungeons have at least one core, so the player comes out even in the end. Once I noticed I had some 40 cores collected I didn't feel the need to change my playstyle anymore. Come to think of it, I only used it for the glowing sea. And emerging from a lake upon a lone raider was one of the most fun I had in this game actually. Aside from that they are just to slow for me. Plus miniguns are a disappointment for all that ammo they eat.
    You could always use the exploit of selling vendors nearly empty cores and buy back a full one. With grape mentats it cots close to nutin.

    What pissed me off is the Bruddahood throwing a T-60 in your face if you pursue the mainquest a little.
    "Dude you hid behind me during a mission without doing anything and watched a legendary protectron clear a subway station. Bro-hood material. You are a knight now, outranking half of the blimp, have a T-60 for good measure."

    At least they got one thing from FO1 right: Energy weapons are truly superior now again, without the need for metagaming and increasing a skill 6 hours before you even get one.
    I upgraded the laser rifle derp gives you the other day and it became an unstoppable weapon of mass uuh burnication. At full auto it still does a lot moah dmg than a combat rifle, with far higher rate of fire. It's a friggin mini gatling laser but without using fusion cores as ammo (dafuq bethesda?). Full auto plasma rifles are even more fun and they create nukular material on the corpses for your pleasure.
     
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    The opening is kind of horribly at odds with the lore and what's even stated in Fallout 4 about Boston pre-war. It's shown as a world of plenty, people living comfortable lives, etc. I mean they pay a little bit of lip service to it on the TV broadcast, but it's not enough. In the game you've got logs talking about scarcity, people at each other's throats trying to eke out a living, war rations/etc. Not to mention how heavily militarized everything is, soldiers in T-60 (lol) all over the city cracking down. It's like Bethsoft is completely oblivious to Brazil as an influence on Fallout and don't understand that the prewar veneer was nothing more than that, a myth. Let's not even get into the forced backstory about your character having been a member of the army. How far removed are we from the tone of Fallout 1 when a member of what was essentially a totalitarian neo-fascist America is cast as some sort of heroic / noble character. Good luck trying to play up that angle of Fallout's lore when playing Fallout 4. You'll be failing quests left and right or being outright ignored by quest givers until you give them the palatable dialog choice.
     
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  6. Jools Eater of Apples Patron

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    True dat. In fact, in my "updated impressions" post, I stated that the game is shit both as an RPG AND as a FPS. It's ok (not "good", not "great": just ok) if considered a "hiking simulator - with guns". I do agree that it can't even hold a candle to STALKER or Far Cry 2.
     
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  7. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    Oh yeah, Stalker is way better than FO4.
    No argument there.
     
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  8. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    Yeah, energy weapons are pretty awesome.
    I don't like how they made everything use the same ammo though.
    What makes the commonwealth so special? Why do they have laser pistols that are just AER9 rifles with a grip?
    Makes no sense.

    I noticed that too about the brotherhood. For an organisation reputed to be unfriendly to outsiders, they sure seem eager to give a stranger their good stuff. I guess Beth really wanted to treat the player like a special snowflake again.
     
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  9. baturinsky Arcane

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    Back to armor DR.
    In damage formula, damage is divided by DR power 0.366
    Which means that damage reduction from DR is roughly cubic, you need 8 as much DR to to take half as much damage
     
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  10. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Gave me nice memories to Star Trek III, where disruptor pistols became rifles with snap ons. (there was a design for phasers as well that got never used)

    With all the effort they put into the Prydwen arrival and already almost unavoidable helping Buzz Lightyear early, the player is definitly urged to go BoS on his first run. We are the good guys! Bonus points for consoletards only knowing the FO3 Bruddahood and expecting the same here. Powah Armoah! Manning the vrrrtibrrrd minigun! PA delivery service!
    At least it gives you some nice "wait, what am I doing here?" moments when you "help the people of the commonwealth" by taking settlement resources by force, and irradicating every ghoul or synth (and their allies) on sight.
    You are not here to think maggot! Trust in your superiors, they know better than you lowlife wastelander. Hoorah! Ad Vicky!:salute:
    Plus there is the nice twist with Paladin Derp on top of it. Thanks for the nice coat Maxon, you don't need it anymore riiiite?

    If anything I would compare them to Skyrim's Stormcloaks, who you get pushed towards from the start, only to realize that Ulfric is just manipulating the sheeple for his own gains.
    Of course, once again using your brain should make you ditch them halfway in. Meaning 99% of Xbone players unlocked "The nukular option" achievment first.

    The way I understood it, having equal or more DR than the dmg received makes you take only 50% dmg, then the higher the difference is, the closer you get to 85%. I noticed taking close to no dmg in T1 leather armor against raiders, but that might be also because of level difference. So theoretically I could run with my armor until the end if I add the best weaves to my jumpsuit later.

     
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  11. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    I actually sided with the BoS as well.
    From a story perspective it makes sense; they are against the Institute.
    The Institute took the main character's son. Ergo, the BoS, due to their equipment, are ideal allies.
    I totally plan on ditching them at some point though. Not too found of their "Obey all orders, and purge the Unclean, Battlebrother" schtick.

    I like though how Danse tells you that he is going to watch you at all times to make sure you obey orders, and that merc work is off the table, and then lets you fuck off with their rare suit of powered armor and do your own thing.
    I can imagine him on the blimp's bar thinking, "man, that new recruit has been in the bathroom for a while. I still don't understand why he needed his armor"
     
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  12. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I certainly makes the most sense when you are about to enter the institute. The greasemonkey in Sucktuary building that hightech machine from scratch was so ridiculous I couldn't stop banging my head on the table.

    For science I tried ignoring cambridge until the blimp arrives, but it feels completely off then. With all those vertibird crashing in the landscape they could have just waved their hands and be extracted. So no, you have to help them before to conserve precious immershun... Even if you help them and just delay joining, they will stand there in the entrance and not move an inch until you join.
    Going back to the blimp? Naaaah, we are waiting for the Chosen1 to join us first! I totally know he will, I have seen him in my dreams!
    Derpy doesn't even comment on you wearing Powah Armoah when you first meet him. Quality writing as usual.
     
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  13. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    He doesn't?
    Well, that's lame. I was actually thinking the other day what his reaction would be if you went to the Police Station in T45 armor
    Beth's inattention to detail is awe-inspiring.
     
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  14. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    It's worse than Fo3, then - approaching Outcasts in power armor would at least get you different dialogue from their usual "lol tribals gonna trib"
     
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  15. Grimlorn Arcane

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    So Fallout 4. Great game or greatest game ever?
     
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  16. an Administrator Self-Ejected

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    5.3 user rating on metacrits, probably the best game ever in history...
     
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  17. Curious_Tongue Larpfest Patron

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    Fallout 4 is to Fallout 3 as Skyrim is to Oblivion.
     
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  18. Lhynn Arcane

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    No it isnt, its actually the opposite.
     
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  19. Lord Carlos Wafflebum Aspiring Infinitron Patron

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    Has anyone asked Legion what he thinks of Fallout 4?
     
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  20. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Problem is I don't know who Legion is. Mayhaps Legion sees this in his inbox and make a showing.
     
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  21. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    So, I just played that part where you go to the Memory Den.
    I think that sequence might be the best bit of writing and character development in the game.
    It was pretty basic, but it was competently done.

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    Kellogg should have been the main character. Playing through his story would have been more interesting that Lone Wanderer II's Boston adventure. Beth just can't make a game with a make-your-own-hero-and-backstory feature. Kellogg, who has an established back story, would be more interesting. It would most certainly have been another shooter, but all of Beth's games are like that, so really nothing lost there.
    Also, Shi.
     
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  22. Perkel Arcane

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    Gone back to FNV for another playtrough.

    Will wait for proper mods to expand base building aspect of game and probably will never finish actual main quest (and most of sidequests for that matter)...

    Maybe some new world space...

    Or maybe modders will port FNV into Fallout 4 engine..
     
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  23. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    And that is why they should have just let you play as Kellogg
     
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  24. 28.8bps Modem Prophet

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    Just like Tamriel has been in technological stasis for hundreds of years, so will the Fallout world be. You'll never not be from a vault, the currency will always be bottle caps, there'll always be the brotherhood and super mutants and ghouls. It's the Bethesda MO.
     
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    What's even more funny is that random NPCs do.
     
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