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Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by Daedalos, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    What roleplaying elements? Karma? Skills? lmao
     
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  2. Lhynn Arcane

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    Ayup, plus a blank slate protagonist instead of dad.
     
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    Or mother.

    And how is a child from a vault any more blank slate than a person from the past?
     
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  4. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    You can larp your own voice.
     
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  5. Curious_Tongue Larpfest Patron

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    I don't really roleplay, I avatar.

    I couldn't imagine roleplaying any character in fallout 3's setting though.
     
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    I agree, though I think Fallout 4 has the better story, which is also saying something.
     
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    Fallout 4's environment is a hell of a lot more logical as well. Seeing farms and multiple settlements makes The Commonwealth feel a lot more alive.
     
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    I like the Companions commenting on your actions and on the locations you visit.

    It's cosmetic, but it feels like your progress and achievements are acknowledged.
     
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    More vertical places too. Though I stopped playing at lexington, maybe it's the only place like that :M
     
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    More importantly, why are you retards arguing as if a blank slate protagonist is a bad thing? It's not, forced emotional attachment and predefined shit characters are much worse, Fallout 4's PC is awful because he has a voice, because you can't control his shit dialogue, because he is always a pre-war married new father faggot.

    Fallout 3's Protagonist was way more blank slate than the new PoS, and was better for it, NV took it further by defining little else save for you having been a courier who was shot.
     
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  11. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    So the difference here is that the Fallout 3 character doesn't have a voice. Such blank slatings.
     
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  12. Lhynn Arcane

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    And that he didnt have a career, and that he wasnt married and had a family, and that he was a good guy or a good sarcastic guy, and that he didnt have a son, and neither his way of talking or his manerisms. The only thing you get to define about your character is its name in FO4.
    Why dont you piss off instead of answering inane shit.
     
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  13. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    Yeah he had a dad! LOL

    COme on, play the fallout 3 prologue again. You even get to overcome bullying (with deep C&C). :happytrollboy:
     
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    FO4's protagonist feels like a heavy handed way of engaging the player. All Fallout player characters are like this to a degree and are not completely blank slates, though this is the most aggressive version of it yet:

    Fallout 1: Vault Dweller in searching for a water chip.
    Fallout 2: Descendant of the first Vault Dweller, tribal, Chosen One, searching for a GECK.
    Fallout 3: Vault dweller, son of Liam Neeson, betrayed by the overseer, searching for daddy.
    Fallout New Vegas: Courier, hired by Benny, betrayed and left for dead, searching for Benny.
    Fallout 4: 200 year old War Veteran and house owner, frozen in a vault, had a spouse named Nate or Nora that was murdered and a male baby named Shuan that was kidnapped, searching for Shuan who himself is locked into a certain background.

    In FO4, your history, your spouse's history and your son's history are all locked from the start.
     
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    I never made any claim about a blank slate being inferior. I thought most here would logically assume no-one would make such a claim about a roleplaying game.

    I don't think growing up in a vault is neccessarily more blank slate than growing up pre-war. There's countless variables from the outside world that could shape countless larp characters.
     
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    I missed about half of those during my playthrough but stuff like "KILL EVIL SCIENCE LADY" vs "KILL Honest Dan", which I did play, are hardly inspiring alternate quest solutions. The rest look to be about on the level of Fargo's legendary "do I save this drowning kid or let him drown" school of choices.

    Comparatively:
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Wasteland_Survival_Guide_(quest)
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/You_Gotta_Shoot_'Em_in_the_Head
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Tenpenny_Tower_(quest)
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Trouble_in_Big_Town
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Trouble_on_the_Homefront

    And to avoid cherrypicking, here's some really shite linear quests that still manage to have some kind of choice at the end:
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Reilly's_Rangers_(quest)
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/The_Superhuman_Gambit
    http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Agatha's_Song

    The alternate solutions also involved, occasionally, skill checks. Granted, it was terrible "[Science] You're a computer!" type stuff but they were still essentially skill checks which changed the outcome or course of quests.
     
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  17. Lhynn Arcane

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    I played fallour 3 prologue a couple weeks ago. You can take 3 stances to deal with it, either you are a bitch, you do not give fucks or you stand up to them (you can also reason with them tho its a hard check). You can play as a good kid, a jerk, an overactive fuck.

    Also, everyone has a father, having a son is a lot more defining, especially when you dont get to pick how you react to having it. You literally have no arguments to give bro, so why the fuck are you even arguing this point? to be a contrarian cunt?

    That fallout 3 is better isnt even a question, and this only serves to show us how far beth has fallen.
     
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  19. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Fallout 4's C&C is on the level of Bioshock's C&C.

    /kenlevinevoice

    'Choices... and consequence... do I hack the turret or bash this splicer with a wrench? Choices... and consequences.'

    Fallout 4 is closer to something like Borderlands, Hellgate London, or Dead Island.
     
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  21. Lemming42 Arcane

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    No, you're right, I spoke wrong originally, I'd forgotten that in addition to the CHA checks some quests also let you shoot person A instead of shooting person B.
     
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    I think you're all mad as a Radscorpion on Jet, Fallout 4 is brilliant in my radiated books.

    It's the best Future Farm Sims game since Settlers AGA on Amiga 1200.
     
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    To get kicks out of people praising Fallout 3's C&C. What a terrible loss for roleplaying games.
     
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  24. Lhynn Arcane

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    Just saying its better, not saying its good.
     
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