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Fluent Plays Elder Scrolls Online

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Fluent, Jul 4, 2019.

  1. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    I didn't weave either and never ran into any trouble. Didn't feel like it was necessary. Just felt like tedious autism, which it is.
     
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  2. Gerrard Arcane

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    Was the game released on consoles at the same time as PC?
    In last year(s) they had a big influx of people leaving WoW so they have even less incentive to change.
     
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  3. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    My current style of attack is spam skills until I'm out of stamina. If they get up close I use my magicka-based slashing attack until magicka is gone. It still takes quite a few hits for me to kill anything. Their health bar goes down like a millimeter at a time. Bow user for the record.
     
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  4. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    It's not decline luj1 it's fun. Against tougher enemies you have to be more strategic. Heavy attacks restore stamina for example, and timing that to spend more stamina in your abilities is fun as well. It's got good combat by all means.
     
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  5. thesheeep Arcane

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    Dude!
    Pick magicka for DPS. Or pick stamina for DPS. Don't pick both. Damage/healing scales with its assigned attribute. Don't mix stamina/magicka (except for tank, maybe).
    Pick an attribute that isn't health and stick with it. That's the first thing you learn in ESO after you fucked up your first character.

    Or are you gimping yourself on purpose here? In which case, cool, have fun.
     
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  6. MajorMace Learned

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    Are hybrid builds viable and if not, why ? The sheer benefit of min-maxing is just too good not to go for ?

    As often with mmos, the game's ought to get repetitive real quick. But I appreciate the side activities in this game a lot. Said it already but the level-scaling pre-max level is a very good aspect. MMOs always only had two actual evels anyway : non-max and max. I've never seen a game differenciate the experience between level 32 and 48, you're just slaying pigs of different colours. This game got it right.
    On another note, there's an insane discrepancy between the premise of having 3 factions at war and the reality being that these 3 factions actually really aren't.
    It makes absolutely no sense. I suspect they originally wanted to go for a PvP game but had to adapt their design to their audience, a big part of which is probably much more interested in TES stuff (PvE).
    As a result, these factions are completely inexistant throughout the story of the add-ons because of this weird shift.

    Inb4 an update abolishes the faction and sets up some storyline to explain it.
     
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  7. Gerrard Arcane

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    You have to give some credit to the Zenimax studio here, they managed to dumb down the Skyrim attributes even more making health almost completely irrelevant.
     
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  8. MajorMace Learned

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    How do stats work in a few words ? How can points invested in 1 out of the 3 (jesus) avaliable choices be irrelevant ?
    If it's just about max-ing stamina or magicka, and if the game is actually designed around it (I mean, maybe they're not satisfied with it, I don't know), why aren't they just asking at level 10 or something "hey wanna go stamina or magicka ?" ?

    Why does Bethesda hate character progression/customisaton so much ?
     
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  9. Gerrard Arcane

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    Magicka and Stamina directly determine how powerful your abilities are (unless the description mentions something else). Health is just health, there are only a few abilities in the whole game that scale based on max health, and they are all in different classes so even any meme build potential is nearly nonexistent.
     
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  10. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    There's more to the character customization than just the Attributes.
     
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  11. MajorMace Learned

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    Never said or implied otherwise.
     
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  12. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    Was thinking of getting this in the Steam sale for $10 but the idea of playing any MMORPG where you actually have to use an exploit to co-op with others lest you be thought of as a shitstain of the world's loincloth is abhorrent to me. And the fact that it's a bug that the developers are actually afraid to patch because players will scream "WHERE'S MY EXPLOIT?!!!" makes this game a big "No, just No." But thanks anyways.
     
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  13. Alexander DeLarge Learned

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    Like I said earlier, when people say animation canceling they mean using an ability before the full second long animation is complete. Anyone who isn't braindead will be doing it out of habit so it's not bad.

    Also
    do not buy the game on Steam
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    do not buy the game on Steam



    Remove "weaving" and it's Guild Wars 2 with worse animations.
     
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  14. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    How much is ESO typically when not on Steam sales?
     
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  15. anvi Liturgist Village Idiot

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    Why not get it on Steam?

    I got a boxed copy from Amazon for about $5 a few years ago.
     
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  16. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    I think someone mentioned that the Steam authentication servers for ESO are down most of the time or something

    Now that's my kind of sale, cousin! I never pay more than $10 for anything... okay, maybe $15, tops!... if it includes TWO games, like Arma I & II which I bought in a digital purchase once for $15, oh, and Dark Souls I & II for the same.
     
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  17. luj1 You're all shills

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    Well, your idea of fun is... different than mine I guess.
     
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  18. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    Would you guys say the combat mechanics in ESO has at least as much depth as the last couple of Elder Scrolls games, or worse? I could probably tolerate Oblivion/Skyrim levels of low difficulty if the setting, story, lore and other gameplay elements like decent exploration are good enough. I always enjoyed Elder Scrolls lore and I understand that ESO is very lore heavy but don't want to play a game where there's very little challenge anywhere.
     
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  19. Alexander DeLarge Learned

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    Don't buy on Steam it relies on Steam authentication so if Steam Community is down, you're fucked.
    You can get a key for ESO or a retail box off eBay for about $5-10 for Morrowind and you can get Elsweyr+Summerset+Morrowind+base game for around $30-$40 if you shop around.

    Waaaaaaaaaaaay more depth than anything found in Skyrim/Oblivion. There's plenty of challenge at the veteran DLC dungeon/raiding level.
     
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  20. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    When I can get Elsweyr + Summerset + Morrowwind + the base game for $15 then I'll buy it. I want it all, every single inch of that ESO real estate. First I'll take Tamriel... then the world.
     
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  21. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Make sure to subscribe monthly for $15 because you get access to all DLC too, and there's a ton of areas in the DLC and cool stuff.

    It's not as bad as it sounds. Combat is actually very satisfying and deep. Their health doesn't go down that slow since I morphed my sniper shot ability. I can kill most enemies quickly but boss enemies present a real challenge. They will kill you if you don't fight properly. And I do spam my sniper shot but when they get in close I also hit them with a magickal slash ability, or run away and pop shots with my bow. It's actually really fun. I'd suggest giving it a try and see for yourself. It's way better than Skyrim and close to Morrowind as the best Elder Scrolls game ever. I'm not even exaggerating.
     
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  22. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    Well, I don't wanna go overboard with it right off the bat. Need to just try out the base game + Morrowwind first to see if I like it (which I strongly suspect I would since I like the Elder Scrolls universal). But I'm unusually wary of any type of MMORPG or multi-player game that tries to get money from you, tries to trap you with paywalls, pay-to-win and shit like that, feeding upon the addiction syndromes of countless fools & their mentally & socially sub-normal offspring so easily parted with their monies, likes rats & mice in a skinner box, or kids madly running to & fro at Chuck E. Cheeses with their shiny tokens and single slice greasy pizza stains on their faces & clothes, though this doesn't sound like that.
     
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  23. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    Nah, you don't have to buy anything, I haven't even been tempted. If you subscribe you get free crowns (their store currency) anyway. But I'd suggest subbing because you get access to DLC which includes Morrowind areas and much more - there's a lot. If you like Elder Scrolls you should love the game honestly, it's very good.
     
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  24. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    My nephew, whom I greatly respected because he made something of his life after much early disorder and sorrow, told me about a golf game he was addicted to on his iPhone that he knew was unwinnable unless you bought whatever it was you needed to buy to win, and he still bought it. As he told me this, I could hear his kid shouting in the background, "Dad! I need $20 to buy that cool new weapon in the game I'm playing! You can fly around on it like an outta sight science fiction hoverboard too!" Lost. All. Respect. Right. There. I don't want to ever become that guy. But I'll check ESO out. Sounds harmless enough
     
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  25. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    There's nothing wrong with spending money on a game you like. But that said, ESO is harmless in that regard, you can buy cosmetics and stuff like that, and also I believe repair kits, but you can have your stuff repaired anyway for in-game gold, so it's not pay-to-win by any means.
     
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