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FO3 is not nearly as bad as you hystronic nerds make it out to be

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by ThatsRightImInIt, Sep 3, 2019.

  1. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    I'm sure they cry when they see that they get no love here. To quote a famous American entertainer: "I cried when I saw the critics' reviews of me... I cried all the way to the bank."
     
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  2. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    lol. I always giggle when I see people use redundancies, like "you retarded cretin!" Much funnier than those who use double-negatives. I can just picture them in my mind's eye shaking their angry, frustrated little fist at the world as they say it.
     
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  3. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    Vanilla. Yep. I did like some of the DLCs though, even vanilla.
     
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  4. Sigourn Arcane

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    Seeing your franchise die and have it be revived by someone who knows how to milk it and also make games that their customers love makes that to you.
    Must be sad how the "shitty Bethesda" is better at making games for their customers than any proper cRPG developer ever will be.
     
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  5. Squadcar Learned

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    Another triple post. Do you need a guide on how to condense your thoughts into one message? Or how to use the "Edit" button?
     
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  6. JackOfOwls Liturgist

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    You're right. It's annoying. I'll work on myself. I'll be back.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Sigourn Arcane

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    Yeah, sure. :lol: It burns people's blood to see Bethesda's games being praised as the best games ever while their favorites fade into obscurity. Only appearing, from time to time, on one of those "Best RPGs of all time" lists found on the Internet, and even then, topped by the likes of Fallout 3, Skyrim, Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger.
     
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  8. GloomFrost Arbiter

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    Its terrible alright.
     
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  9. JDR13 Prophet

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    Those two stalwart FO3 defenders be like...

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  10. shihonage You see: shelter. Patron

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    Only Alt-Right hates Fallout 3! Because it won't let those fucking NAZIS kill children!

    THINK OF THE CHILDREN
     
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  11. Cat Dude Learned

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    Nazis have been vilified 100 times more than communists in media.
     
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  12. Squadcar Learned

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    "The National Socialist German Workers' Party"

    Nice try bub, but they are socialist which is at least half way communist!

    Edit: 5 people don't know a joke when they see one
     
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  13. Cat Dude Learned

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    Communists are not nationalist. So why only Nazis have been vilified countless times in media but not russian communists? And Sweden is not a communist state.
     
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  14. shihonage You see: shelter. Patron

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    Jesus can't you people take a joke.
     
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  15. laclongquan Arcane

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    In a way it's true. We are a niche, a pretty loudmouth niche at that. And games that we like have the tendency of being low sale.

    We are Oscar of niche gamers, for niche gamers. Or Saturn Award Committee. games that we like? have low commercial volume.

    Mind you. The problem is that one day pretty soon all the high sale games want to be known as high quality games. They want to get Oscar you know. And all their fanboys is and will get terribly spurned by us for being enjoy such lowbrow entertainment. Away, you provincials! No Oscar for you.

    It's fine if you laugh all the way to the bank. Just dont expect to get praised for that~
     
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  16. Beastro Arcane

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    And yet, at least story wise, elements of the originals are effectively beloved by the new Fallout fans. You see that with FONV's reception where they talk about how much they love FO3, and yet, when it comes to FONV they pause for a second to emphasize that the FONV story was a step above it. Something about it was downright objectively better and they loved it.

    We all here know FONV is a highly cannibalized Van Buren that lacks much stuff and has many added parts right down to the plot itself, and yet what it very clearly conveys in the beginning is a connection to the story of the previous two games and their elements in a way Bethesda seems incapable of even understanding, reducing it to simplistic silliness.

    That connection strikes even those derided fans and how many of them want Fallout to be more than what Bethesda delivers even if they won't break and hate them like the Codex. All of this makes me think of a situation like hating a family of asshole, spoiled kids, but once you see how they respond to proper parenting, you realize the problem isn't the kids, it's the parents and the shitty way they're raising them and that the kids could be better if raised better.

    The problem with new Fallout fans is that Bethesda only wants to tap them for money and deliver Todd's standard fare, they don't want to give them more that has made FONV a rare thing: it's beloved by both Fallout fan groups for the same damn reasons.
     
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  17. Beastro Arcane

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    I don't get why people keep loving the DC section. I hated it, nothing but mangled ruins that traded the brown everywhere for concrete grey. At least the underground sections had some style and atmosphere to them,, even if flooded with ghouls, which is still better than the super mutants above.

    DC was the one area I avoided. It was actually out along the fringes of the map that I felt it was best, out by the satellite towers in the north and down by Dunwich and such.
     
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  18. Sigourn Arcane

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    Many do... but many others claim Fallout 3's "emotional story" was much better and they didn't care about New Vegas' faction conflict.
    I have no doubt people love elements of classic Fallout, but even a lot of New Vegas fans would be against returning to the series turn-based isometric roots.
     
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  19. Sykar Arcane

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    True, Fallout 3 is not nearly as bad. It is in fact an aborted abomination. It defines a new level of terrible. Bethderp has truly outdone itself with this master turd.
     
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  20. True, Fallout 3 is pretty good. It's different than New Vegas and that's a good thing, both are great. I'll have to replay Fallout 3 with the DLC sometime since I never saw the DLC and missed a large portion of the map because I breezed through the main story.
     
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  21. normie Erudite Patron

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    as bad as Fallout 3 is, Oblivion is worse, my guy
     
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  22. JDR13 Prophet

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  23. Sigourn Arcane

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    You don't think you are the only person who has ever played Fallout 3, do you?
     
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    It's mostly because I really liked the art direction in Fo3. It doesn't feel at all like the same setting as the original Fallout (mainly because they went way too far with the 1930s/1940s/1950s stuff, something I wish they'd toned down further in New Vegas), but it does present a really cool-looking retro-futurism sort of thing, and that's best showcased in the DC areas, so I had a lot of fun just walking around ignoring the game's plot and exploring the destroyed city. There's a few interesting hidden things in the city too, like that street with the guy who's mined an entire alleyway and detonates it if you try and walk through. On top of that you can stumble across some settlements and extensive dungeons, like the science museum where all the ghouls are, and the big hotel full of super mutants that you have to keep crossing over rubble between buildings to scale.

    With a mod to remove the shitty green filter, the city has some interesting colour schemes going on in a few parts - faded red Nuka Cola billboards, rusted orange bus stops, bright blue metro signs and so on.
     
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    No, but they periodically necro old accounts to post pastas like the op's. We live rent free in Pete's head.
     
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