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Gaming and treadmills

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Nog Robbin, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. Nog Robbin Scholar

    Nog Robbin
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    Found this through the BBC website. Some interesting opinions on gaming and the use of treadmills, mostly aimed at MMO's but with some relevance to single player games.

    http://www.raphkoster.com/2007/04/23/th ... ent-121731

     
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  2. katzenjammer Novice

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    I still find Progress Quest to be the most philosophically elegant refutation of the grinding paradigm in RPGs.
     
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  3. merry andrew Erudite

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    I've been playing Guild Wars a lot lately and it's fun to watch people treat it like the WoW variety.

    I'm level 20 and all of my max armor is dyed black and I have The Awesome Sword of Flaming Uberness!

    Too bad you suck.
     
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  4. Zomg Arbiter

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    WoW is up to 8 million? Jesus.

    What's there to say? Koster's analysis is correct. I guess it bodes well for the single player games I favor, since they don't have the challenge and humiliation of PvP games, which the mainstream will always find bitter. Skill in single player games is like untying knots - you just have to care enough to pay attention and pull at loose strings until the game falls apart. Even people that favor a game of skill dislike 99% of the other games of skill available to them, because they'd lose at them.

    Undirected "games" are toy-like and depend on novelty rather than the kind of predictable craft you can budget into a game, and are therefore hard to blockbusterize.
     
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  5. Fez Erudite

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    The Sims worked the balance between toy and game well, judging by the sales for it.
     
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  6. MisterStone Arcane

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    My favorite is Statbuilder... oldy but goody!

    The old website is gone, but it is still hosted on some freeware sites... see below.

    http://www.free-games-fun.com/games/Statbuilder
     
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