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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/15/old-world-new-warhammer/

Old World? New Warhammer!!
You’ll never believe what we’re working on. The Studio had to tell us twice.

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Yeah. For really reals.

In the deepest dungeons of the Warhammer Studio, the counsel of the wise have convened, ancient forges have been re-lit and work has already begun. So far… we’ve made the logo.

Next up, everything else.

You get the idea – this is a long way off. Years. More than two. Like three or more. Definitely not soon.

Obviously, this is really exciting news for all of us, and just like with Sisters of Battle, we’ll keep you updated with more news as the project unfolds.

For those of you who don’t know, in 2015, Warhammer: The Game of Fantasy Battles changed forever, in so far as Archaon destroyed the world. Classic Archaon.

Everything we knew of the Old World collapsed into a void of Chaos and infinite possibility. From that tumultuous storm came the Mortal Realms, heralding a new dawn of unending war in the Age of Sigmar.


Booooom!

From the reforged primordial soup and etheric energies of the Old World rose wonders we could never have imagined – armies of ghosts, fleets of aether-powered aircraft, Greenskin brutes the size of horses, and flying sharks! The heroes, villains, warriors and monsters of Warhammer Age of Sigmar represent the best range of fantasy miniatures in the world, beloved of a passionate, global gaming community. And over the past four years, Warhammer Age of Sigmar has become by far, the most successful fantasy game ever.

And yet, the Old World whispers from ages past with its siren song. We grow misty-eyed at the memory of long-lost heroes and glorious kingdoms laid to ruin and of mighty champions whose sagas are sung no more.

And of course, much of the lore of the Mortal Realms has its roots in the world that was – with some of its most venerable denizens being the very same that fought across those war-torn kingdoms (along with a small selection of choice magical artefacts.)



The Old World is to Warhammer Age of Sigmar, as the Horus Heresy is to Warhammer 40,000. The bedrock of lore from which mortals rose to godhood and legends were forged. And like the Horus Heresy, seeing those mythic heroes in action has an undeniable appeal, as does re-creating the glorious armies of a previous epoch – an exciting proposition for hobbyists and gamers alike. And now, we have a dedicated team in the Warhammer Studio beginning the work of bringing all that awesome back to the tabletop.

Exciting stuff!

If you’re itching to jump into the Old World right now, you can! There is a fantastic selection of computer games, such as Vermintide and Total War: Warhammer, offering a chance to engage in the enduring appeal of the setting.

And what next, then, for Warhammer Age of Sigmar?

There are some HUGE (some might say giant) plans for the Mortal Realms… More news soon. For now, we have to keep it hysh-hysh.
 

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The 9th Age guys are going to enjoy this immensely.

Or not.

Probably trying to recatch the grogs and the TW market. Makes sense.
 
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And what is the quality of the printed miniature compared to the real thing?

They look like shit to me.

The quality is perfectly similar to 2000ies era GW products, and instead of paying 3,5 bucks for a plastic 28mm mini it's roughly 0,20 cents. And it's not going to GW.

I'd call it OUTSTANDING QUALITY.
Bare in mind that I can literally just print off some Death Korp or Steel Legion minis for pennies on the dollar using the exact same resin GeeDubs uses. Whilst they have the cheek to charge £40 for a single box of infantry.
 

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2002. Suits in charge of White Wolf have a revelation that their players are eager to see their beloved World of Darkness raped and razed reimagined and rebooted, and there is much profit to be made this way. Are mildly surprised.
2008. Suits in charge of Wizards of the Coast have a revelation that their players are eager to see their beloved Forgotten Realms raped and razed reimagined and rebooted, and there is much profit to be made this way. Are mildly surprised.
2015. Suits in charge of Games Workshop have a revelation that their players are eager to see their beloved Warhammer Fantasy raped and razed reimagined and rebooted, and there is much profit to be made this way...

Do they ever, ever learn?
 

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2002. Suits in charge of White Wolf have a revelation that their players are eager to see their beloved World of Darkness raped and razed reimagined and rebooted, and there is much profit to be made this way. Are mildly surprised.
2008. Suits in charge of Wizards of the Coast have a revelation that their players are eager to see their beloved Forgotten Realms raped and razed reimagined and rebooted, and there is much profit to be made this way. Are mildly surprised.
2015. Suits in charge of Games Workshop have a revelation that their players are eager to see their beloved Warhammer Fantasy raped and razed reimagined and rebooted, and there is much profit to be made this way...

Do they ever, ever learn?
nope.

They look like shit to me.
Yep. For now, printers are best used to make terrain or bitz.
for now.
 

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And what is the quality of the printed miniature compared to the real thing?

They look like shit to me.

The quality is perfectly similar to 2000ies era GW products, and instead of paying 3,5 bucks for a plastic 28mm mini it's roughly 0,20 cents. And it's not going to GW.

I'd call it OUTSTANDING QUALITY.
Bare in mind that I can literally just print off some Death Korp or Steel Legion minis for pennies on the dollar using the exact same resin GeeDubs uses. Whilst they have the cheek to charge £40 for a single box of infantry.

You can use the same resin all you like but the detail is still nowhere near the level of detail on official figures. Fair play if you're happy with them but I'd laugh someone off the table if they turned up with an army looking like melted turds. No doubt the technology will be within the reach of consumers one day but it isn't there yet.
 
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And what is the quality of the printed miniature compared to the real thing?

They look like shit to me.

The quality is perfectly similar to 2000ies era GW products, and instead of paying 3,5 bucks for a plastic 28mm mini it's roughly 0,20 cents. And it's not going to GW.

I'd call it OUTSTANDING QUALITY.
Bare in mind that I can literally just print off some Death Korp or Steel Legion minis for pennies on the dollar using the exact same resin GeeDubs uses. Whilst they have the cheek to charge £40 for a single box of infantry.

You can use the same resin all you like but the detail is still nowhere near the level of detail on official figures. Fair play if you're happy with them but I'd laugh someone off the table if they turned up with an army looking like melted turds. No doubt the technology will be within the reach of consumers one day but it isn't there yet.

It's cool, dude. Maybe one day you'll get your own resin printer so you can stop being so salty. Until then, you keep on paying 40 times the cost of actually manufacturing those minis. Whilst I keep on with heresy era marines that cost me a quid. The shitty camera on my phone adds some granularity to the mini that doesn't exist when looked at with the naked eye.

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And what is the quality of the printed miniature compared to the real thing?

They look like shit to me.

The quality is perfectly similar to 2000ies era GW products, and instead of paying 3,5 bucks for a plastic 28mm mini it's roughly 0,20 cents. And it's not going to GW.

I'd call it OUTSTANDING QUALITY.
Bare in mind that I can literally just print off some Death Korp or Steel Legion minis for pennies on the dollar using the exact same resin GeeDubs uses. Whilst they have the cheek to charge £40 for a single box of infantry.

You can use the same resin all you like but the detail is still nowhere near the level of detail on official figures. Fair play if you're happy with them but I'd laugh someone off the table if they turned up with an army looking like melted turds. No doubt the technology will be within the reach of consumers one day but it isn't there yet.

It's cool, dude. Maybe one day you'll get your own resin printer so you can stop being so salty. Until then, you keep on paying 40 times the cost of actually manufacturing those minis. Whilst I keep on with heresy era marines that cost me a quid. The shitty camera on my phone adds some granularity to the mini that doesn't exist when looked at with the naked eye.

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I'm not salty at all, doesn't affect me in any way what you do. I'm just saying, imo they look like shit.
 

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Do they ever, ever learn?

Yes they do.

GW in particular is raking in money nowadays, best financial situation they ever had apparently. Personally, I haven't given them a cent for a long time (it helps, former Tomb Kings player) but by running around 9th Age players and discussing the subject is rather clear that nuking WHFB for AoS was a completely rational move done to get profits. WHFB had a ruleset that was too complex for the target audience, GW's tabletop "designers" had no idea where to go and thus it was fairly easier to nuke the entirety of the setting and reboot it in a way similar to 40k (Sigmarines). It worked magnificently for several reasons: the main contenders in "mainstream" tabletop wargaming started to have ruleset problems and reach the end of their "golden age" (X-Wing got some serious problem with power creep and people are almost tired of Star Wars, Warmachine shot itself into the foot and others are fairly minor). Furthermore GW gave their gaming license to everyone and their dog, making money while giving pennies.

Furthermore, the entire business model was re-organized to focus on getting people in the hobby as soon as possible: the target objective for GW's rulesets and figures is roughly 12 years old, to get them to understand only the "Games Workshop tabletop game model" so brand and ruleset fidelity and nothing else (remember the Warhammer children books or the simplified kits for painting?).

The thing is, the grogs aren't GW's primary target: they consider themselves a toy company for children. And while White Wolf and WoTC are a bunch of retards (particularly WW and their SJW crusades) GW does not give a shit about anything bar profits. Sure, representation as long as it gives them profits. Sure, women in the hobby, as long as it gives them profits. All entertainment corps are like that, but GW's is surprisingly honest with it. Even rebooting the Old World is surely connected to reap advantages from Total War and to get the beaten wives grogs to pay for overpriced setpieces, like their endless deluge of specialist games. I've personally seen people getting a 250 bucks specialist game kit just because, never even getting it to the table.

Thank fuck Warlord Games and Battlefront pretty much failed in their attempt to "Games Workshop"-ize the historical tabletop market, but every company would love to be them.
 

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You mean their sigmarines abomination actually sells? Why, then, every computer shovelware that is not 40k is based on the original Old World? If their business model is luring the computer games audience to buy their minis, that audience is in for a nasty surprise. Imagine WOTC peddling 3e FR computer games only to slap the crossover gamers with aidsplague.
 

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You mean their sigmarines abomination actually sells?

They do. I am far from loving their business model, and the AoS launch was nothing short of a disaster, but apparently they sell far batter than WHFB ever did. Their model of progressively hunting for a younger audience works.

Furthermore, the shovelware approach for games works also: they aren't giving the fucks any money, they are merely selling the IP. GW has avoided like the plague any game that could be a direct opponent to the tabletop - this is merely my opinion tho, even Total Warhammer was given the go because they were going to kill the Old World and that could no longer be a direct opponent.

Everything GW does, apparently, has ended up working for them: youth focus, simplifying rules, specialist games out of the whazoo (the fact that they are badly supported means nothing in the end), WoW aesthetics, licenses thrown out for everything to games comics little children books and whatever. Munchkin expansion? Go for it! Funko Pops?

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And it sells. Lowest common denominator, comrade. We're talking of a company that changed Orks to Orruks because Orks isn't up to trademark!
 

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https://www.warhammer-community.com...ScPQzGSl4SWpOUpAIg-rZpDq-antpVx6WYemfbKd3DELI

When you all said you wanted plastic Adepta Sororitas, you really meant it!

We’re so excited to see the love you folks have for this new range – everyone here at Games Workshop put a huge amount of creative energy into remaking this faction, and it’s been truly humbling to see your response.

This weekend, we celebrated the redesigned Sisters of Battle with pre-orders of a special launch set, and our healthy supply sold out online in record time.

Even so, we know that there are plenty of folks out there who missed out, and to you, we’d like to say that we are sorry. We produced a huge number of this box, but even our optimistic estimates didn’t anticipate the full scale of the demand.

We’re working on some pretty cool fixes for this kind of thing going forward though. Right now, we’re putting the finishing touches on a new factory next door to our HQ so we can make even more Warhammer models, and we’ve just started work on a massive distribution hub so we’ll be able to stock and ship more Warhammer than ever!

All they had to do is listen to players and get profit, but old management was simply too retarded to do this.
 

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Everything GW does, apparently, has ended up working for them:
Also codices for everyone quick instead of waiting for 8 years to update your army, annualy rules and points updates (Chapter Approved), Campaigns where every faction gets something (Psychic Awakening), working with tournament orgs to balance the game, Beta-rules (like helping marines by giving them new rules), day 1 FAQs, fixing broken shit just week after release, resurrecting Battle Sisters, plastic for everyone (even xenos), daily videos on their youtubz (I think their utubz had 100k subs for long time, now 320k) and new painting resource, resurrecting Aeronatica, Bloodbowl, all the specialist games, possibly Battlefleet, and now - Old World.

Also did I mention that 40k 8th is the most varied and balanced edition by opinion of even tournament fags?

There is only one thing which is still same, still old, and that is, of course, the prices.

Also they sorta kinda awkwardly try to fit in SJW shoes a little here and there, but since they're mostly all well paid anglo saxons who sell expensive plastic stuff to purely white grognards in their 20-30ish (or at least that is their most vocal community) it looks super awkward and nobody cares; it doesn't affect the overall direction much as they prefer money I guess.
 
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it doesn't affect the overall direction much as they prefer money I guess.

Which is a good thing in its own way, I guses. Evil capitalist versus loony SJWs: the former is still the lesser of two evils.
 

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It's cool, dude. Maybe one day you'll get your own resin printer so you can stop being so salty. Until then, you keep on paying 40 times the cost of actually manufacturing those minis. Whilst I keep on with heresy era marines that cost me a quid. The shitty camera on my phone adds some granularity to the mini that doesn't exist when looked at with the naked eye.

And you slap paint on it and it will show.

I see loss of detail and massive clean-up job on your minis. And they will still probably look mediocre-bad after painting.

GW model quality has been declining a lot in the past, but some details are still absolutely critical for a proper paint job.

Fixing the mistakes in crappy GW plastic jobs is already a pain, I wouldn't want to multiply that just to save a few bucks.

You can do impressive results with a proper printer, but still...

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(both are printed, one is 10x more expensive than the other)

My protip? Buy used minis. World is full of half-finished crapjob armies. You can remove the paint relatively easily and those go for pennies.
 

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Yea if you want to save up just buy used.

The amount of money you spent on printer to print marines (lmao) could buy you whole armies of marines. The ebay is oversatured with them. Why do you think GW also switched to primaris? Because buying old marines cheap is just too easy.
 

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every Eldar player hates him.
 

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