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Google Stadia - "a game streaming service for everyone"

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by toro, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. Morgoth Arcane

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    So this is where the movie industry and the gaming industry will coalesce into a single "entertainment" platform. I suppose that's where these two disctinct artforms will also die.
     
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  2. Urthor Arbiter Patron

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    "she sold things she's a genius"

    Yeah there's a reason they didn't publicly announce *how much* they sold them for
     
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  3. Dexter Arcane

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    They really weren't.

    Also, playing a video game that requires player input and if Multiplayer server response is totally the same experience and use-case as watching a video that can be even 5 minutes behind and nobody would notice.

    Fucking brainlets.

    We've been over this shit already and don't really need to go through the paces again, just peruse the last time this was the unavoidable "future of gaming":
    https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/onlive.37235/
    https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/steve-perlman-speaks-on-onlive.39984/
    https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/onlive-demoed-lag-graphics-are-a-problem-gasp.40343/
    https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/onlive-is-sooooooooo-awsum.45615/
    https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/onlive-died-today.45644/
     
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  4. Strange Fellow Magister Patron

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    I'll just repeat that I've tried a streaming service just like this one and had no issues. On a decently fast and stable internet connection, none but the twitchiest of games will be annoying to play. You're welcome to think I'm lying, but why would I? I don't want this if it doesn't work right. Maybe it'll be different when everybody's streaming their games, in which case I'll change my mind. Right now, though, it works.
     
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  5. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Goodbye horses modding
     
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  6. some funny shit Scholar

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    Ahh another shitty epic vapoware project to be shelved soon by retarded Google(TM)

    Just like their self driving cars closterfuck
    [​IMG]


    "Impractical", no shit Sherlock.


    They should listen to good old Steve


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...k-says-doesnt-believe-AI-smart-drive-car.html
     
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  7. Dexter Arcane

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  8. fizzelopeguss Arcane

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    My nieces and nephews play fucking roblox mate, even shite like this is overkill.
    I haven't tried it and never will. But I'm not the market.

    I bet the average console pleb is hooked up to a piece of shit flat panel in out of the box torch mode with 120ms of latency. :lol:

    The average gaming pc is barely any better, an off the shelf turd running a 1060 if they're lucky and connected to a TN display. What do they care about "Quality"?
     
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    Normies that don't want to be in the matrix 24/7 should be beheaded by female street samurai.
     
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  10. Gerrard Arcane

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    Ah yes, Rockstar, the prophets.
     
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  11. polo Liturgist

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    Hey they didn't say it during the presentation but i wonder if this works with my dialup connection. Thanks.
     
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  12. ZeniBot Savant

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    Probably not but you should check out this awesome service Microsoft has called MSN Game Zone. I'm sure it'll be around forever.
    *goes to the Zone today*
    OH FUCKING HELL ITS ALL CANDY CRUSH.
     
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  13. polo Liturgist

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    Damn i remember playing AOC there, it was awsum.
     
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  14. Volokard Literate

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    Now that I've seen the announcement, I'm incredibly disappointed. I expected Google to maybe launch something similar to Steam or GoG, but with their spin on it. A bit of pressure on online stores so that they compete with each other even more would have been a good thing. That could've been interesting, but no... another streaming service. The people designing these things are somehow out of touch with gaming despite working in the game industry. Who asked for this really, what audience?

    There is already a "streaming" service for low-spec games, flash games. They've been here for many years. Sure, they're popular, but no one takes them seriously. It's just something to kill time, like mobile games. You don't invest a lot of emotion or time in a streamed game because you know you don't really own it and it may not be available tomorrow. It's just not the same as owning a product, even a digital product because you can make copies of that. Knowing that you can have an offline backup of your things just makes you a bit happier.

    Google Stadia is pretty much the same thing, online flash games but for AAA games. This may help Google get their money faster but at the cost of making the consumer feel disconnected from the product itself. I expect Stadia to be useful in some cases, and it will work for some type of games, but I don't think legendary games will ever be a streamed product only. And not only that, but it's a bad idea to trust a single company with all your data. People can be corrupt, businesses fail.
     
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  15. Nex Cipher

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    i struggle to stream 720p video half the time :/
     
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  16. Gerrard Arcane

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    As an Apple co founder he should realize that the average Apple user is dumber than even existing AI.
     
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  17. Heretic Erudite

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    "Stadia" means "Stages" (as in "Stages of cancer") in some languages.
    Sounds like a disease, a Google-cancer spreading through our infrastructure and our economies.

    They probably went for the other meaning.

    Oops.
    :)
     
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  18. cw8 Learned

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    So... how do you activate offline mode on that thing?
     
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  19. CyberWhale Arcane

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    TBH I'm hoping they have a Google Stadia store where you can buy games and then decide to 1) play them offline using your own specs or 2) stream the game using Google's cloud.
    Would be a nice alternative to Steam because unlike Epic it would actually bring something new and interesting to the table.
     
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  20. Zarniwoop Destiny Cleanser Patron

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    Remember Google Glass?
    Google Cardboard?

    Yeah, neither does anyone else.

    Google is the ultimate millennial company. Anything older than 6 months never existed and was, like, literally, the dinosaur times.
     
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  21. Morgoth Arcane

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    Literally problematic.
     
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  22. Lutte Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    I played the entirety of Bloodborne on PSnow (this is my profile created for psnow, only one game really played to completion and that's BB). And PSnow is much worse than GeForce Now in my experience (gfnow stream quality is far more consistent. I'm in their beta.) and I expect google to be at least on the level of GFnow, if not better.
    People who think the idea has no future are extremely shortsighted. OnLive was to game streaming what early Windows Mobile and Nokia Communicators were to smartphones. Almost nobody gave a shit about pocket PCs for aeons but when android and iOS came out it took over the world.
    Yes, competitive fighting games and FPSes are not going to be best played on a streaming service.. so what? Do you actually believe the platform needs to be optimal with every single genre of video game to become successful? I guess Nintendo can stop selling 3DSes

    Besides being at the right place at the right time (like how this sort of thing couldn't work before enough people in the world get good internet like fiber), another factor that will determine success and who gets to rule this newly built market is marketing and Google is doing something that may kill every single alternative to the service before they were even officially launched : they are integrating the service with youtube to the point where you can access a game demo and play it immediately right after watching a trailer on youtube. This is borderline criminal and should be watched over by regulatory authorities that are supposed to prevent abuse of monopoly power.
    I'm mildly enthusiastic about the future of the technology, but I do NOT want Google to win this. I'd much prefer if it was NVIDIA who launched and won the market first.
    Also, NVIDIA's plans for their services are the most honest. You'd buy and own your games, and would be able to play them on a gaming PC locally. Their service doesn't sell games, you buy them on steam like you'd usually do. Their service can run a full steam session.

    All the negative posts here are like the first slashdot announcement of the iPhone.

    https://apple.slashdot.org/story/07/01/21/2032239/why-the-iphone-keynote-was-a-mistake

    When people have a wishful thinking to kill a technology or a product they will always argue about the impossibility of success despite the lack of reasoning.
     
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  23. Dexter Arcane

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    The main reason that this will fail is because nobody asked for this, the use-case for Streaming video on demand as opposed to having to watch Live TV or buying Blu-Ray seems obvious, people are generally fine with buying their PC and console games and playing them though.

    Another thing that they will never get over with this "technology" is shitty input lag:



    Which makes this a non-starter for any type of competitive Multiplayer games, if it works at all. And the publishers running the servers and games wouldn't want Google to run em in the first place, since they want people to use their own services and give them money.

    Another thing is developers (and even some publishers) will most likely not like their payment model, you can especially already hear Walking Sim or short "story" game devs complain, but it's generally a stupid business model even for large publishers that won't want to replace $60 retail purchases for a few bucks of Streaming hours split up on them (and the hardware and bandwidth doesn't come cheap either, and don't forget the provider's cut):


    And another reason why this won't be anywhere a few years from now is that they're half-assing it, just like some of the products that were brought up before e.g. Glass/Cardboard/Daydream Google is not a game development company and has no own development studios or large infrastructure to entice people to actually use their service:


    Nobody will Subscribe to some Google service to Stream AssCreed or DOOM, which they likely already own.

    If anything, people should be more afraid of Microsoft trying something abysmally stupid again with their next "console cycle".
     
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  24. Squadcar Learned

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    I'm fine with them trying the abysmally stupid again as long it hurts them again. Consistent results for consistent mistakes. Quit touching the stovetop if it's burning your hand. You should have learned the first time.
     
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    Historians will dig up this thread and laugh at you.
     
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