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Vapourware Greed Monger Insider Thread (drama inside)

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by DarKPenguiN, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. GM_JamesPro Learned

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    There was no Signed Contract... Just Skype Discussions where we discussed everything... So even if I did continue with GM and launched I would have no legally binding Contract ensuring that I would get my percentage of the profits like Jason and I had talked about... From talking to one of our other former team members it seems he was promising percentages of the profits to others as well while at the same time saying we were the only ones he was offering these deals to. And even if I did get a percentage of the Profits how much profits does Jason really think we would be getting after the PR mess he created for us.
     
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  2. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    Get ready for super colossal dumbfuckery.

    Just remember who your favorite penguin is because shit might get heated soon.
     
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  3. SupaNova Barely Literate

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    Im one of GM's (former now i guess) QA testers. And TBH, Good on you James, Youve been running the show with the threat of a lawsuit for quite some time now, although the updates over the last few weeks had been becoming progressively more promising its not worth damaging your health over. Best of luck with future ventures.

    Also, This forums seems quite nice, might lurk around for a while.
     
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  4. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    Edit- (to be more kind)- Jason will you kindly take that dick from your mouth when you get a moment and come discuss the failure of greed monger.
     
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  5. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Don't taunt your whale too much, Ahab.
     
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  6. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    I fixed it to be a bit kind.
     
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  7. Andnjord Arcane

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    http://www.greedmonger.com/forum/showthread.php?2055-Leaving-Greed-Monger&p=29904#post29904

    So, it's official. I wonder if our investigator Dark Penguin did provoke this or if we're just seeing a freak string of coincidences. If it's the former then the codex can officially claim to have sunk a promising game (according to its still deluded backers) :incline:

    In any case that should get Jason Appleton to come out of the woodwork, or at the very least his next figurehead/victim.
     
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  8. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    I have no idea what you're saying but your avatar is kinda hot...In a robot kind of way.
     
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  9. Andnjord Arcane

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    As in: -thread pops up on the codex exposing the shady backstory of GreedMonger.
    -Lead developer joins in the discussion.
    -5 days later said lead developer resigns from his position.

    Or I might just be mixing up the various names, that's also a possibility.
     
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  10. Scrooge Female Quota Staff Patron

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    Very good. You did the right thing in leaving. And it really seems Jason is to be blamed for everything. Now you can put your energy into something more productive and motivating for you instead of this more or less dead (sorry but it still seems that way ;)) thing.

    I also hope that Jason will show up here, but I doubt it, since he obviously couldn't even be bothered to post on the GM forums.
     
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  11. Ranselknulf Arcane Patron

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    I see a lot of words but no actual discussion.

    If you have something to say to me say it. Otherwise piss off. This isn't a lecture it's an internet discussion thread.

    You seem butthurt that I've summarized the situation better than you. There is a person (JP) working on this game for free who is either a complete dupe beta or made a really bad business decision and is gonna get boned if he ever finishes the game. The game you claim to want to get finished but I don't think that's your ultimate purpose. I think you just want to stir the pot, which is fine, but don't pretend you are here looking out for the "backers".

    I stand by my analysis, I think he should stop work completely on this game until the situation is resolved, or just stop work forever as this situation isn't worth the effort to deal with.
     
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  12. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Personally I'm still not 100% convinced that DarkPenguin, GM_JamesPro and SupaNova aren't actually the same person, but whatever :kfc:
     
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  13. Krraloth Prophet Patron

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    I do not know enough about laws in the U.S. but can a person under no contract whatsoever get sued because he didn't comply with what appears to be just words on the internet?
     
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  14. EJoe Educated

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    No. Skype chats are not legal tender documents. Usually, scam-artists (like the kind who make shitty artwork for GM game) say that it's legally binding but it is not. You can tell a bunch of lies on Skype and get away with it legally.


    How to say? You need to be square with your dealings (F&AM). The second part is to be square with your works. This kind of legal intimidation would not hold up in court.


    Please put a developer tag on me cos I came here to congratulate Jason for leaving GM.
     
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  15. EJoe Educated

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    I came out of the woodwork as (GM person) approached us a couple years ago asking for MMO tech, coding and modelling services.
    For our MMO tech, we use similar what Age of Conan uses.


    When the Greed Monger guy came to us, he wanted everything for free, or the contract was so worded that we would get a fraction of what should be the value of the services rendered.


    Coding - for royalty while demanding AAA quality.

    Modelling - high quality for free.


    Due to our friends' feedback, we didn't deal with Greed Monger person and stayed away from him.



    One of the persons on Greed Monger - KS page - Steven Davis - is a known scam artist:
    http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/do-not-hire-steven-davis.148014/


    The legal contract was so worded that if we signed it, we would be sued for NDA breach (considering what a PR nightmare GM is), our code and models would be used for free without any payment until GM makes money, after game starts, excluding all pledges, gifts, pledges and KS money.



    The estimated sum is more than US$90,000 as on KS page. The private donations run twice as much. More like a total of US$200,000 as the private pledges were equal that of on KS page.


    A few weeks later, one of the modelers I know, had it and posted this, then (GM Guy) threatened to sue him
    http://forum.wurmonline.com/index.php?/topic/69845-greed-monger/


    JamesP, you have my sympathies. You shouldn't be doing coding projects for a pittance.
     
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  16. Norfleet Moderator

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    You know, I just had this hilarious concept for a Kickstarter project: "Kickstarter Scam Simulator".

    Stretch goals: We take the money and run.
     
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  17. EJoe Educated

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    I can never seem to type Greed Monger on my iPad. It keeps auto-correcting to Greed Minger. Weird.
     
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  18. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    Flunk- The more you write things (having not read the thread) the more of an idiot you are look like to those who HAVE read it. Christ,I know you're an intelligent guy. read the fucking thread or not but your comments make no sense right now.
     
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  19. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    God, you guys are paranoid...

    But wouldnt that make a great twist? =P
     
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  20. Zorba the Hutt Arcane Weasel

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    This is where we need a Jaesun 'Sir-tech thread'-style troll:

    Users posting from this IP address:
    DarkPenguin
    GM_JamesPro
    SupaNova
    crojipjip
     
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  21. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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    Honestly, it came as a surprise to me also. James PM'd me and we got on skype and talked for several hours. He had been essentially working under duress due to the threat of a lawsuit by Appleton- This was far more than I expected tbh.

    I wanted Appleton to come crawling out from under his rock and have to face the same bullshit James had been facing for 3 years . Appleton took the money with no accountability and pretty much disappeared off the internet. He used James as a shield and as long as James kept jumping in to defend GM ,Jason could sit back and do nothing. By being such an asshole towards James I figured he would finally say "fuck it" and tell Appleton todeal with the GM "publicity" that keeps cropping up. I honestly didnt think he was going to quit.

    But he made the correct decision ,no doubt. And now Appleton will have to come out into the sunlight and face this shit he has been hiding from for 3 years.
     
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  22. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    They're all posting from inside your house, Zorba the Hutt! Danger is close.
     
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  23. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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  24. DarKPenguiN Arcane

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  25. Angthoron Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Copypasta the full news for brofist harvest, lightless flightless bird.

    That said, LOL, what the fuck.

    This is surreal.
     
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