GreedFall - Gold Edition - new colonial-themed action-RPG from Spiders

[Popiel]

This ain't even mediocre, it's a bad "rpg"

Okay, people need to calm the fuck down with edginess. This game is better than DA:I, ME3 and many other turds (not to mention F4 or other gems of this pile of shit), thanks also to somewhat ambitious and unique setting, construction of the narrative and so on. It drags a lot, it sucks in many respects (it's in basics a tight drama centered around a couple of characters which was without a reason blown too much), yes. But it's not "bad". Such deflation of terms is almost as bad as age of decline in which we live in, it's an overreaction.

To put in another way - it's s game from a medium shelf. It's not bad, it's not good, but 'cause of the context people will tend to either praise it too much or hate it too much. We don't get such mediocrity enough anymore it seems.

 

[Quillon]

It's a mediocre game and a bad rpg. 99% of the dialogue is non-interactive, player agency is almost non-existent. DAI was better "rpg" than this.

 

[Reinhardt]

Honeymoon is over.

 

[Popiel]

It's a mediocre game and a bad rpg. 99% of the dialogue is non-interactive, player agency is almost non-existent. DAI was better "rpg" than this.

I can see reason behind such a statement. As I've said many times, my experience was that De Retardet had no true agency. He had some choices to make, but no character to build around them, i.e. player didn't, 'cause character was already there. It's like a more extreme version of Geralt from Witchers.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[fantadomat]

i've failed my perception check - elemental trap provides armor destruction. First 2 nodes in a tree are all you need.
Now I also got access to dynamite - with armor quickly removed Im able to crush enemies easily.

qq: anyone found use for roll skill? It appears you can only roll backwards and as such its usefulness appears to be limited? Wonder what Im missing in here

Ahhh no,you could roll any sides...if we are talking about the same skill tho. You have to dabble tab the shift to roll,i found it very useful against boss fights or when i want to roll forward and get behind the enemy for bonus damage. Also a must skill that noticed is the healing,it is maybe the best skill in the whole game.

 

[Darkwind]

Honeymoon is over.

Extremely over for me. Like a couple of others I threw in the towel before completion. I'm probably about 2/3rds of the way through and the backtracking or simply running from point A to point B over a long distance to advance the quest a few lines of dialog is fucking tedious. It starts off very tolerable and rapidly rises to intolerable as you get deeper in the plot. I --hate-- artificial extension of play time through poor design mechanics or purposeful padding. I may or may not come back and finish it later.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[toro]

Honeymoon is over.

Extremely over for me. Like a couple of others I threw in the towel before completion. I'm probably about 2/3rds of the way through and the backtracking or simply running from point A to point B over a long distance to advance the quest a few lines of dialog is fucking tedious. It starts off very tolerable and rapidly rises to intolerable as you get deeper in the plot. I --hate-- artificial extension of play time through poor design mechanics or purposeful padding. I may or may not come back and finish it later.

sounds like technomancer... expecially with respawning enemies

yeah, welcome to technomancer 2016

condolences if you wasted money on this shit

Honeymoon is over.

only rusty_shackleford and fantadomat are still strong shilling for the game

GentlemanCthulhu is busy trolling AoD fanbois

felipepepe has shit taste on rpgs despite all his knowledge of them

Jinn supports all rpgs despite of quality

lukaszek defies categorization like a gender-fluid person would

overall a nice bunch of lost souls

 

[markec]

I was on a fence for buying this game, but luckily I remembered wise words that, it looks like, saved me from making a big mistake.

 

[Jinn]

Jinn supports all rpgs despite of quality

Not quite, but am largely forgiving of their often times numerous faults in a lot of cases. There are many situations where I won't touch an RPG because I can tell it's garbage right from the get go, or will give it a shot and drop it in disgust shortly after. Often times if I express a soft spot for a clearly greatly flawed RPG such as Greedfall, it's because I have a respect for the well-conveyed good intentions of the developers. There's a certain humanity involved there that will endear me to games with big problems.

Either way, you could have been a lot more mean with that call-out, but were actually pretty nice with your wording, so thanks for that toro

Funnily enough, Greedfall has been reminding me a lot more of Insomnia: The Ark the further I get into it in terms of gameplay, which was a game we both were rooting for but ultimately ended up dissapointed with in the end.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Grauken]

not very deterministic, you're straying from the true path

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[felipepepe]

Finished it yesterday and I still think it's worth playing. No one is saying that the game is the best RPG ever or a new classic, but it's a solid game and the best RPG we got so far this year.

The first area is amazing and the game could have been a new classic indeed IF they keep that standard. Sadly, they didn't, you have very few role-playing options apart from a few key decisions, and sometimes it feels really bad that you can't just attack someone or tell them to fuck off. But the game still delivers a nice balance of story, exploration and combat. Combat feels satisfying, quests never feel MMO-like and the side-quests blend well into the main quest, telling separate stories that add more details to the main story.

Yes, the ending gets tedious with a lot of backtracking, but a lot of it is optional. You can run from basically all trash mobs if you want, and the story plays out differently if you skip secondary objectives or side-quests, so I still don't get people rushing to play 40 hours in a single week doing a completionist playthrough and then complaining that they are burned out. I want to replay the game in the future doing just the mandatory quests, you can probably finish it in like 10 hours and get a very different story.

Overall, I think it fits well among B-Tier Eurojank like Divine Divinity or Drakensang: River of Time, and I definitely prefer it to stuff like Might & Magic X, Tyranny, Gothic 3 or Dragon Age 2.

Spoiler

Also, all those journos going "you can't push back against colonization" are idiots, I helped put a warlord in charge of the island and send all colonizers back to the continent to die from the plague.

 

[fantadomat]

only rusty_shackleford and fantadomat are still strong shilling for the game

Clearly we are the only ones with impeccable taste!



It is amazing how your are still butthurt about a game you never played. Did the french steal your favourite goat or something? Fuck,what a grudge,even i moved on to shitting on vogel's new abomination.....that gave me nightmares......ohhhh the horrors.

 

[Grauken]

Overall, I think it fits well among B-Tier Eurojank like Divine Divinity or Drakensang: River of Time, and I definitely prefer it to stuff like Might & Magic X, Tyranny, Gothic 3 or Dragon Age 2.

I count M&M X higher, but Gothic 3 and DA2 are definitely much worse

 

[purpleblob]

No one is saying that the game is the best RPG ever or a new classic

Have you been to Watch lately?

the best RPG we got so far this year.

I suspect this is certainly affecting people's judgement... Haven't had anything vaguely interesting this year till Greedfall.

The first area is amazing and the game could have been a new classic indeed IF they keep that standard. Sadly, they didn't, you have very few role-playing options apart from a few key decisions, and sometimes it feels really bad that you can't just attack someone or tell them to fuck off. But the game still delivers a nice balance of story, exploration and combat. Combat feels satisfying, quests never feel MMO-like and the side-quests blend well into the main quest, telling separate stories that add more details to the main story.

I've been hearing these kind of comment from more reasonable people and plan to play the game once it hits bargain bin since someone created the mod (shame on you, devs) to fix the camera/reduce motion sickness.

 

[Carls Barkley]

IGN rates it an 8.2/10. The same reviewer gave Elex a 4/10.

 

[Modron]

I was on a fence for buying this game, but luckily I remembered wise words that, it looks like, saved me from making a big mistake.

That is 38 dollars 44 cents now.
https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation

 

[Nano]

Dragon Age 2 is better than this game. It has less asset reuse than Greedfall ffs.

 

[DeepOcean]

Dragon Age 2 is better than this game.

Eh... just to remember.

 

[Nano]

Are you implying it's bad? That's an awesome scene. It's rare that games get as twisted as that.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Honeymoon is over.

I'm only 3 hours into GreedFall. I'll be sure to necro this thread in 5 years when i finally finish greedfall. Probably end up trolling both sides.

 

[boobio]