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KickStarter Grim Dawn

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by JudasIscariot, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. ArchAngel Arcane

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    That life is kind of low. My lvl 58 with low level gear and no soldier class has almost 12000 life.
     
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  2. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    I'm not dying so I wouldn't call it low.
    Edit: I have some points invested in Counter Strike which does seem to be pretty useless. I might respect them into something more useful, not sure what yet. Might either cap out Decorated Soldier, Military Conditioning or Wendigo Totem. Gotta try and see which works best for me.
     
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  3. ArchAngel Arcane

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    I have been thinking of trying another build focused on Chaos damage. As main skills I was thinking Aether Ray (converted to chaos damage) and Doom Bolt.
    Not sure if I should go for lvl 50 occultist or arcanist exclusive skills for it.
     
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  4. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    You'll obviously want the Occultist exclusive skill since it gives Chaos damage and damage absoprtion. There's nothing you'd want from the Arcanist exclusive skills if you are converting Aether Ray into Chaos damage. Be sure to get this for maximum fun time.
     
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  5. ArchAngel Arcane

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    But I would assume that Aether bonus damage would convert to Chaos damage for Aether ray and arcanist skill also gives bonus fire damage which is half of Aether Ray damage.
     
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  6. RuySan Augur

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    Arcanist seems totally boring compared to spellcraft in PoE. It seems that it's just better to dump points into the basic ranged spell instead of trying anything different.
     
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  7. ArchAngel Arcane

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  8. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    You'd assume incorrectly. In damage calculations conversions are always applied first. Any +Aether% damage would be a complete waste.

    At a glance it seems sound enough. What a painful build to look at, though. 50 Points into Occultist and 40 points into Arcanist. Imagine that 30 levels worth of skill points are spent only on the masteries. Ugh, cannot wait for mods to fix this and bring down to 32 points per mastery.
     
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  9. 4249 Arcane Patron

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    The +Aether% from Disintegration is still applied even with the transmuter. So going 50 Arcanist would be worth the %damage bonus, the crit bonus and about 50-60 spirit. I'd probably drop the healer bird for that and get heals from devotion, and Blood of Dreeg.

     
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  10. MrJohnson Educated

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    Interesting! Need to check back with ma builds...
     
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  11. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Ok. In this case I changed my build to: http://grimcalc.com/build/fpTloc
    Removed Fabric of Reality and invested into Hellfire aura that gives both chaos damage and fire damage.

    Healer bird heals faster than Blood of Dreeg. And you don't need to fuck around activating it all the time
     
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  12. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    The problem with this build is that you end up starving for skill points pretty badly. http://grimcalc.com/build/8MPNmp I avoid going 50/50 in both masteries.
    Another variation could be this http://grimcalc.com/build/qlYBwN since mobility with AAR is a big problem, you could go for max Maiven, Blood of Dreeg and Sigil of Consumption so you can just facetank enemies while you blast them.
     
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  13. MrJohnson Educated

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  14. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    My only opinion is this: Good Luck. Making a Cold themed caster is the hardest thing to do in Grim Dawn due to the poor Cold spell representation within the Masteries.
     
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    Olexra's seems pretty pointless for a cold damage build. My best guess would be just to go ham with Trozan's. Not exactly purely cold damage, but close enough. It's also pretty easy to support it with Pneumatic Burst's and Iskandra's modifiers.

    I'd probably go for something like this:
    http://grimcalc.com/build/IiycVP
     
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  16. RoBoBOBR Augur Patron

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    I tried cold mage, but Trozan's is such a bitch to hit stuff with, plus it's on cooldown. Respecced in Calidor Tempest and never looked back.
     
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  17. MrJohnson Educated

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    Cold nova that freezes the entire screen pointless in a cold caster build - why? It's not for damage, it's for CC and debuffing, you can't really spam Trozan all the time so you keep the little shits in check with the nova.



    already played through veteran (didn't even start normal) and it works for me. I 1v1 your Dreeg as soon as the itemization is kinda equal :P
     
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    I see it as more of a supportive skill for fire and physical. 24 points for just the CC feels like a waste. 12 points to Absolute Zero especially. The first point gives you a 20% slow, while 11 skill points only gives 30% more. If you like the CC, do keep it.
     
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  19. Serus Arcane

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    Or simply wait for the first DLC that will certainly add at least 5 more levels to the cap... 10 maybe :P
     
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  20. MrJohnson Educated

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    Another use for the nova: Mine Detector :happytrollboy:


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    Well can't talk about Ultimate difficulty yet (but think it will be pretty much shity dmg), but on veteran it's enough dmg to kill all trash and little yellow enemies (have only 1 point in Absolute Zero atm), so it's a good sweeper atm

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    The bad thing about frost nova is that its not working when you need most need it. You cannot freeze bosses and some heroes are immune to its effects to.
    And after leveling up trozan and devastation it really falls behind at damaging too. Im using it with only 1 point for a secondary oh siht button in ultimate.
     
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  22. made Arcane

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    I'm playing a cold caster atm and it's been a breeze all the way through vet. Biggest downside is that it's pretty damn boring.
     
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  23. gestalt11 Savant

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    Its not hard to make a build that feel OP for vanilla Normal. Its only somewhat tricky to make one that feels that way for Veteran Normal. But things like say a defensive setup of devotions can be pertty important for Ultimate and/or Elite. Anyway you can change devotions so if you want to just pickup something like choas/aether resist because you are low on them or something you can always swap it later in Elite for a power or whatever. Also some powers are not that strong or only strong for certain builds.

    Finally keep in mind you can use devotions to alter some builds. For example putting Arcane Bomb into Aether ray not only make Aether Ray itself better due to -res % of Aether but also adds a 5 meter aoe. This can save you from needing to do something putting points into calidor's tempest for aoe. Although CT + arcane bomb would still be much superior AOE, you can still get good enough AOE with say AB devotion + the two aether damage increases of arcanist.
     
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  24. gestalt11 Savant

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    Yes but if you convert to Chaos you should probably run Posesssion and not Reckless Power. Reckless would only buff the fire part of AR. However RP would give cast speed too which helps AR. Posesssion give 12% damage absorb which put onto pof Maivens should be rather good defense, so I think it would be better. Finally you would absolutely want Witchblade Deovtion which reduces Chaos and Fire resistance and if you can fit it in Acid Spray from manticore will be enhanced by Posession and the enahncer skill of blood of dreeg.
     
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  25. Hobo Elf Arcane

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    The lack of a cold spell specific spammable spell hurts it. You can supplement Trozan with component spells, but they are kinda boring and weak after Normal/Vet. Fire has the same issue although Grenado and Canister Bomb help a lot more than Trozan does. You people building Cold casters should upgrade yourself to a fun style and roll as a Lightning Wizard. Now there is a fun build.
     
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