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Has Kickstarter been a positive influence on the RPG genre?

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by RaptorRex888, Jun 17, 2019.

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Has Kickstarter been a positive influence on the RPG genre?

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  1. RaptorRex888 Educated

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    Has Kickstarter been a positive influence on the RPG genre?
     
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  2. Zed Duke of Banville Zo Kath Ra Patron

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    Pro: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (one of the two best games I've kickstarted) and Paper Sorcerer

    Con: Pillars of Eternity, Torment: Tides of Numenera, and Underworld: Ascendant.

    :M
     
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  3. sputtering fart balloon Educated Patron

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    Yes, because it started a golden age of board games/pnp and that interest trickles down and gets people interested in crpgs. In theory. I have no proof of this at all, not the trickle down part I mean.
     
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  4. buffalo bill Savant

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    Yes, it has destroyed the nostalgia-driven myth that if the good old developers just had the chance, they could make Fallout and Planescape Torment again.

    It is good to destroy myths.
     
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  5. Funposter Savant

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    all good video games are created by accident. i have come to accept this.
     
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  6. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    It did bring us new, good games from the new developers, such as Serpent in the Staglands, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, and some others so there's also that.

    I remember watching post mortem of the original X-Com by Julian Gollop some years back, and it showed this so perfectly, the team they got together was formed by an accident, such as the artist(s) who made the artstyle was put into the project by Microprose IIRC.
     
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  7. undecaf Arcane Patron

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    Yes.
     
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  8. Lord_Potato Prophet

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    Kickstarter helped the genre endure a difficult period when it was considered not financially profitable to create such games. Plus, we got some really good/decent titles - Wasteland 2 DC, Shadowruns, Pillars, D:OS, Kingdom Come Deliverance (and will hopefully get some more before this era ends, I especially hope for Realms Beyond).
     
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  9. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Them trying and failing is better than not trying at all.

    Besides there's plenty of decent stuff that has come from kickstarters by newcomers.
     
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  10. Jimmious Arcane Patron

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    Of course it has been. Before KS we barely got any RPGs for quite some time
     
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  11. Cross Erudite

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    Though there are some where that was the case, such as Broken Age and Underworld Ascendant, most of the Kickstarter disappointments were not made by the 'good old developers'. The people who were responsible for WL2, PoE and T:ToN were not the creative minds behind Fallout, Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment.
     
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  12. ShaggyMoose Learned

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    I think it has allowed for developers to prove that there is still a strong market for RPGs, which didn't seem to be a message received by publishers. Picking a good kickstarter is still a crapshoot though. Disclaimer: I backed Underworld Ascendant.
     
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  13. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    It brought us Shadowrun Dragonfall and Hong Kong, so my answer is yes.
     
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  14. Grauken Arcane Patron

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    Well, at least we didn't have to suffer a space-sim scam lethal blow like Star Citizen
     
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  15. HoboForEternity sunset tequila Patron

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    expeditions, shadowruns, ATOM, kingmaker, just to name few.

    the real harm is bigger companies like inexile putting up crap that harms people actually who wanted make good games by reducing trust in crowdfunding.
     
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  16. Volrath Arcane Patron

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    It brought me D:OS so yes.

    :love:
     
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  17. Volrath Arcane Patron

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    It also brought us shit like pillows of boredom so no.

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  18. Who Cares Educated

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    Without Kickstarter, the RPG renaissance would never happen and the genre would be reduced to casual AAA shitfests from EA or whatever the fuck
     
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  19. Harry Easter Savant

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    It brought us the Shadowruns, Pillars of Eternity, Expeditions: Conquistador, Serpents in the Staglands, Dead State, Wasteland 2 and D:OS1-2. While only D:OS1 and D:OS2 seem to be the really successful on a worldwide scale, the other games filled their own niche and filled a hole we got after...dunno...NWN2? Dragon Age Origins, if you want to be generous? It brought us some excellent, some good and some average stuff, but none of those games were bad per se. The Fall: Last Days of Gaia from 2004 was bad, because it was unplayable after its release. These games were fun. I had fun. Wouldn't replay some of those, but I had fun.
     
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  20. HeatEXTEND Cipher Patron

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    Underrail, AoD > Every KS RPG ever.

    That's a resounding :NO!:
     
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  21. ShaggyMoose Learned

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    But they are only two games, in how long? For every terrible kickstarter (again, see my disclaimer above) there have been a few that were at least playable. I would rather have the choice than expect every game released to be incredible.
     
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  22. Black Angel Arcane

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    Who cares? If there's ever going to be another mildly intriguing RPG appearing on Kickstarter, they're just going to sign an exclusivity deal with Epic anyway.
     
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  23. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    What do you think about ATOM?
     
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  24. DJOGamer PT Arcane

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    By that notion there wouldn't be sequels that are better than the original game.
     
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  25. The Wall Erudite

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    No Kickstarter NO: ATOM, D:OS 1&2 - indirectly also no BALDURS GATE 3, Wasteland 2, Kingdom Come, Darkest Dungeon, Expeditions, Pillars, Serpent in Staglands, Shadowruns, Pathfinder, Eisenwald, Insomnia..

    Tacticool few examples: Xenonauts, Hard West..

    In near future: Realms Beyond, Iron Oath, Stygian: Realm of the Old Ones, Black Geyser, Copper Dreams, Stoneshard, Encased...

    Don't ever allow (legitimate) butthurt brought by experts at failure cloud your isometric view of entire phenomenon. Phenomenon which is btw dying, great and backed by demo ideas like DEMIURGOS fail to collect lower and lower funding goal sums because many people like to throw a hissy fit and say that every Kickstarter is made by untrusty Hungarian whore devs only because his last Kickstarter was Underworld: Ascendent and last girlfriend from Hungary. Which is just so sad
     
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