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Has there ever been a BIG open world RPG that was also QUALITY?

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Sigourn, May 30, 2020 at 9:06 PM.

  1. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Eh, I tend to play TW games with mods and improved AI and some of those give real different rosters to different factions, so it does matter which guys you're fighting. Also in Paradox games it's fun to see the world develop differently in each game. Crusader Kings 2 is the best example for that kind of emergent gameplay. It really creates some interesting and unique situations. I once played as an Anglo-Saxon kingdom, managed to unite England, had a nephew marry a Byzantine princess. He had a daughter who inherited a weak claim to the Byzantine throne. So when the Byzantines were in a civil war, I declared war on them to press the little girl's claim. Cause their armies were busy elsewhere, I managed to occupy Constantinople and get them to accept peace. So an 8 year old girl of English culture and Catholic faith became the Byzantine Empress. Of course, the Byzzie nobles weren't very happy with an underage girl of foreign faith and culture ruling over them, so only a year later a usurpation war started which the girl lost. She ended up in the dungeons and was kept there until she was 16. At some point I noticed that she had returned home to the small Irish province her father was governing, and she was missing her eyes! The Byzantines had blinded and released her. She spent the rest of her life as duchess of an Irish backwater province.

    Meanwhile in roguelikes the only variation I get is... fighting random enemies with random equipment. Meh. It becomes repetitive to me very quickly, and roguelike gameplay is pretty limited anyway due to its single character nature as compared to strategy games where you command multiple units, or a party-based RPG (are there any party-based roguelikes?). I've played many roguelikes but none of them managed to even remotely compete with the hand-crafted dungeons and encounters of BG2, ToEE, KotC, Ultima Underworld, Arx Fatalis, etc.
     
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  2. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    Yes. Plenty of them. Fallout 4, Skyrim, Witcher 3, are awesome CRPGs and the pinnacle of CRPG design in general, and they are big openworld with tons of quality. But most of you already knew that (your hundrends of hours played can testify to that), you just can't admit the truth in public because the Codex Cult (tm) is going to excommunicate you.
     
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  3. Ash Arcane

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    If game marketing preaches how big the map is to the point of craziness, I become very skeptical. I've played a bunch of good open world games. The common factor among them is they were all smaller sized worlds.
     
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  4. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Similarly, if number of words in the script is a bragging point, there'll probably be lots of dreadfully overwritten walls of text (Numanuma comes to mind).
     
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  5. Darth Canoli Cipher

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    I withdraw my statement from the "trigger" thread, you're still in business for 2020's title ...
    Just stick to your guns, you can make it!
     
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  6. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    Never forget your lube for that butthurt. It will make it more palpable.
     
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  7. Zlaja Arcane

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    Is that the skimp with 5000 in cash reserve? I usually use a mod which removes his ability to barter 'cause it makes it to easy to get rich and powerful early on.

    I never said most quests are challenging in finding your goal. But those that are tend to be memorable for me.

    You're both wrong. Condencing all of Morrowind's regions, cultures and different architecture to a map that is only 1/3 of the original size would turn the place into a less immersive uncanny valley.
     
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