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Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by J1M, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. Ninjerk Arcane

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    Almost every single game made these days sucks --Kripparian
     
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  2. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Saw a Miracle Rogue deck that won with a 28 damage Leeroy + Cold Blood + Cold Blood + Faceless combo. You have to get at least two of those cards discounted with Emperor. Definitely doable but don't think I want to craft Leeroy for it. It's a nice 'fuck you' to those endless healing Paladin decks.
     
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  3. Ninjerk Arcane

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    Hola, Kripp, this is Antonio, Rania's secret Puerto Rican lover. I mistakenly left a package of my Magnum XXL Heavy-Duty Condoms at your place last night while you were complaining about a children's card game. I was hoping I could swing by tonight and pick them up. I'll just go in through the backdoor just like how I do with Rania, the dirty girl! Thanks, and good luck with your funny little computer game!w
     
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  4. Ninjerk Arcane

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    @rania Hey baby, its Antonio, When do you think we can meet up next. I really loved the other day and looked up a few new tricks that i'm sure you'll love. I'm still shocked that your boyfriend Kripparian didn't hear us with how loud you were screaming! Anywho tell me when you are ready and Kripp is playing his children's card game, I'll come in the backdoor (haha) and and we can have a blast. PS.I left some of my Magnum XXL Condoms at your place, could you pick it up before Kripp finds it

    Twitch chat is the best thing to ever happen to the internet.
     
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  5. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Seems like half of Kripp's audience hates him/continually gives him shit.
     
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  6. Ninjerk Arcane

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    That's how the best get to the top. Get your followers talking some really nasty anonymous shit. Let them pay to insult you with donations, etc.
     
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  7. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    And holy shit StrifeCro's audience plummets when he stops playing Hearthstone. He's playing some shitty PSP game or something and has 700 viewers compared to Kripp's 33,000.
     
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  8. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, sure thing bro, everybody would figure it out. Everybody who netdecks I'm sure thinks he could've done it by himself, but he's just saving time.

    But even if that happened, it would still be better than having everybody play the same decks within a week of a new expansion.

    You can continue netdecking without having everybody agree with you it's a good thing, you know? K, thx.
     
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  9. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    You haven't earned the right to call me 'bro.' Do you really think someone playing against other people enough games a week wouldn't say... hmm... let me look at the cards that guy is using and emulate it? I'll netdeck all day e'ry day without shame. And whether it's good or bad isn't doesn't change the fact that it's not the central problem. Merely a symptom of bad design.
     
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  10. cvv Arcane Patron

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    You mean Trump? I'm watching StrifeCro regularly, he doesn't play anything but HS.

    EDIT: Ok, just looked at the stream from yesterday. He doesn't do it regularly tho, first time I saw him do that.

    Dude seriously, I can't figure out what's your point. An online card game CANNOT exist without "netdecking". And that's a retarded term anyway because it really is "copying tournament decks". There's nothing "net" about these decks, in almost every one of them you can make a few changes and end up with roughly the same result.

    The problem you're bothered by isn't caused by "netdecking" but Blizzard's insistence on making autoinclude OP cards on one hand and complete unplayable trash on the other. With a cardpool ike this there'd be always archetypes and model decks dominating the meta, even in a world where HS is a physical TCG.
     
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  11. GrainWetski Arcane

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  12. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    I don't know. Does he play exclusively against good players and deck builders? If everyone was playing whatever goes through their head I doubt the meta would settle as fast as it does with netdecking.
    FFS, even in brawl, in like 2 hours everyone has the same decks from the front page of Hearthpwn. Yeah, great thing this netdecking.

    For one thing, without netdecking, quite a lot of players wouldn't figure out instantly what's OP and what's trash.
    But sure, if there wasn't such a disparity between cards, I guess netdecking wouldn't be as effective, because you could probably make do with a suboptimal deck if the quality of the cards was more even.
     
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  13. Hoaxmetal Arcane

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    Muh netdecking.
     
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  14. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    There would be a trickle-down effect. Players around 1-5 would be exposed to players around 5-10 would be exposed to 10-15, etc. Would it take longer? Yes. Would it take longer than a month? Probably not. It would take even less time in Brawl where it's mostly a handful of gimmicks that people would replicate almost immediately upon losing to it.

    Again, the root of the problem is in poor card quality and/or poor balance making certain cards/playstyles that much better than others. Would it matter if people netdecked if there were 50 or so viable decks?
     
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  16. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    There actually is more diversity than there was pre-Whispers. My only complaint is that mid-range Paladin is no longer a thing so it's boring ass N'Zoth control or bust.
     
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  17. Explorerbc Arcane

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    Everytime I play this brawl, the other guy suicides his shitty minions on Mechazod :negative:

    I must have met only a single player who let them on the board to tank bombs. The noob carry is real.
     
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  18. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    I've played it about 50 times. I'd say 50% of the time the other person know what they are doing and can hold minions/spells for combos. 25% of the time they don't but aren't so bad such that I can't save them. The other 25% they're beyond redemption and I'll usually concede by turn 5 due to multiple bad plays, i.e., turn 1 Zombie Chows, Millhouse with an empty board and I have maybe three cards in hand, wasting divine shield on 2/2 minions, etc.
     
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  19. GrainWetski Arcane

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    Am I the only one that hates all the N'zoth decks far more than face Shaman and Zoolock? I can at least win against the latter 2 with my crappy, cheap control decks if I draw my removal. Can't say the same for the N'zoth crap.

    I also had my unluckiest arena run ever this morning. Had a deck with 8 2 drops(2 Fiery War Axes and 6 playable minions) and I drew exactly 0 of them in the first 4 turns of all 3 losses. Kripp would've cut his wrists on stream if that run happened to him. It was so stupid I could do nothing but laugh.
     
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  20. sser Arcane Cuck Developer

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    Heh, happens sometimes. I had a Rogue deck with 7 card draws and I didn't draw a single one until I had 8 cards left total.

    And yeah the N'zoth decks are tough. It's the Paladin one I struggle with -- I feel as though unless I have Entomb for Tirion or a standby Twisting Nether on my Renolock, then I just lose automatically.
     
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  21. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Crafted N'Zoth, sure to be in my next pack. I also use Herald Volazj in Priest since I got it in a pack. Just subbed it in to one of the standard NETDECK slots. It's pretty solid in that it either gives N'Zoth more death rattles to revive (assuming you play Volazj with a deathrattle or two on the board) or it's a good follow up to N'Zoth if your opponent is still in the game and has killed some of the revived rattles.
     
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  22. GrainWetski Arcane

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    I need to stop playing arena. Just faced a priest with at least 15 6+ cost minions including a Y'shaarj and Justicar Trueheart, and he somehow had a perfect curve early. Meanwhile, I drew the 20 lowest cost minions of my deck first. This was at 1-0.
     
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  23. Ninjerk Arcane

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    :mixedemotions:
     
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  24. cvv Arcane Patron

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    That's actually a PERFECT portrayal of my experience in Arena. Why haven't I thought of that?
     
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