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Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by J1M, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. Coma White Educated

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    Spikes will play what wins. But what we really want is the kind of total crushing submission Priest should be able to deliver (but of course, it isn't).
     
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  2. Explorerbc Arcane

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    Wild is much more control oriented at least in the high ranks. Right now it's a mix of nzoth/control priest and patron/control warrior. Even the hunters are the midrange/control archetypes for some reason.

    The most infuriating thing you will meet is some secret paladin with a crazy opener but that's it. Shredders and Boom can be dealt with. They don't even compare to turn 1 tunnel trogg + turn 2 totemic golem etc. in every game in standard.
     
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  3. Dwemer Puzzle Box Arcane

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    Guess the eternal jew in me wanted that 40 dust too badly.
     
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  4. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Stop talking in Magic lingo.
     
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  5. Coma White Educated

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  6. Ninjerk Arcane

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    hell O
     
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  7. Coma White Educated

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    Been hitting some Standard today, and I can report that there's some pretty interesting stuff going on right now. Lots of Barnes shenanigans, Control Priests playing the Resurrect/Onyx Bishop package, etc. If you're tired of staving off Aggro Shamans and looking to do some SCIENCE, now's the time.
     
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  8. Daedalos Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    Finally hit rank 5 a few days back with my Barnes n'zoth control pala. Satisfying :D
     
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  9. Coma White Educated

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    I played against this deck yesterday -- the guy slams a turn four Barnes and tutors up Sylvanas on a full board.

    Yeah, I lost that one.
     
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  10. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    I told you to stop using Magic lingo. I'll tutor your fucking cantrip. Anyway, from what I understand you even misused the concept of 'tutoring' since Barnes copies a card at random without any kind of qualifiers. Curator would be a 'tutor' card since it has tribe restrictions on what it can draw.
     
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  11. Coma White Educated

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    Actually if you want to be anal-retentive about this (which you clearly do, for some obtuse reason); tutoring refers to pulling a specific chosen card or cards from one's deck. If my use of the term tutor in describing Barnes is incorrect (in that the effect is not a choose effect), then your use of tutor in describing Museum Curator is also incorrect. I was referring to the notion that, assuming you've built your deck in a certain fashion; Barnes can functionally be used as a tutor-like effect to pull out a specific minion.

    Barnes is closer to a tutor effect than Curator -- Curator doesn't fetch shit from your deck. Based on your describing Curator as a tutor, I'm going to guess you don't actually understand what you're criticizing me for. Which means you're just being a faggot about this. You haven't really thought this through, have you?

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    "Tribe restrictions". Lol, what the fuck are you on about?

    EDIT: I also just realized you may also be referring to THE CURATOR from One Night in Karazhan. Which also isn't a tutor -- it fetches from your deck, but you don't choose what it fetches. You can build your deck in a way so that it defaults to fetching three specific cards -- but that's also the case with Barnes, which you claim is not a tutor. Neither are functional tutors; they are effective tutors.
     
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  12. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Tribes is a term used in Hearthstone: Murloc is a tribe, Dragon is a tribe, Beast is a tribe, etc. And, yes, I'm referring to the new Curator card not Museum Curator. Those cantrips are fucking with your spikey mike iggie pop.
     
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  13. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Except Demonic Tutor has no restrictions so the curator is in no way more similar, other than maybe the fact that it adds cards to your hand rather than putting them in play.
     
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  14. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    They're really getting lazy with these adventure bosses. Normal of Wing 3 took me about 15 min total. First two's design were super generic and had nothing to do with how the bosses play out in WoW.

    Real-ziez time edit: Beat Hunter Class Challenge on turn 6 in about two minutes. Beat Mage in about four turns. AI is so terrible it Flame Lanced a 0/2 mirror image token when there was an 8/8 and 7/7 on the board. And done. Yeah yeah, there's heroic but I seem to remember Naxx taking a little while even on normal bosses. This is like 20-25 min and you're done.
     
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  15. Projas Information Superhighwayman Patron

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    I don't recall Naxx or any adventure being much harder in normal, apart from very few exceptions like paladin class challenge in Naxx. Now heroic is another matter. I really hope this wing isn't like the last one, where you won by turn 8 by playing literally constructed zoo. Making decks specifically tailored to the encounter is the best part of heroic. So far in Karazhan there has been exactly one boss where you needed to make a specific deck, rather than just queuing up one of your constructed ones, and it was still pretty brainless and literally a rehash of a past tavern brawl.
     
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  16. Dwemer Puzzle Box Arcane

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    Sounds fun and interactive.
     
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  17. Ninjerk Arcane

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    Haven't played since the first wing was released. I just cba to play again.
     
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  18. Explorerbc Arcane

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    Normal was always super easy since Naxx. The problem with Karazhan is that heroic is also a piece of cake. Some of the heroic bosses, I defeated in my first attempt with my ladder decks.

    Naxx, BRM > LoE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karazhan. I don't know if it is because of lack of effort, or part of blizzard's philosophy to cater to idiots who find the game too hard.
     
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  19. Dwemer Puzzle Box Arcane

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    I have no idea.
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  20. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Not playing Arena again. Was 0-2 (offered some pretty bad cards overall), played Flame Juggler on coin turn 1 and Annoy-O-Tron turn 2. How did opponent answer. Warrior... at 0-2 mind you... had N'Zoth first mate turn 1, Slam to draw a card and kill off Juggler with his 1/3 weapon turn 2, then Blood to Ichor to remove Shield and spawn a 2/2, hit Annoy for 1 and finish it off with Inner Rage. Constructed Tempo Warrior decks at 0-2 tier in Arena. Fuck this game. How was that retard 0-2 with those cards?
     
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  21. v1rus Arcane

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    Wait, how did he kill off juggler with Annoyotron alive?
    Nvm, the formatting confused me.

    Anyhoo, I dont think matchmaking works liek that, he could have been 0-0, and 1-0, and so on. Not sure tho. Also, why did you coin Juggler? Nothing better in hand to save the coin for?

    Sadly, i know how you feel, rather well. When arena makes you your bitch, it makes you your bitch, unlike Romero.
     
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  22. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    I'm pretty sure it's same record vs. same record. At least that's what Kripp says and he plays Arena 95% of the time. I coined Juggle because I had an Argent Protector so I figured I could get out a 2/3 and then shield it and trade with whatever he played. He also played N'Zoth's first mate on his turn one so I killed off that 1/1 token.

    Narrative:

    His Turn 1: He plays N'Zoth's first mate getting 1/3 weapon and 1/1.
    My Turn 1: I coin Juggler, it's battlecry kills the First Mate.
    His Turn 2: Slam + Weapon to Kill Juggler.
    My Turn 2: Annoy-O-Tron
    His Turn 2: Blood to Ichor to remove shield + give a 2/2, weapon hit, then Inner Rage.

    I'm fine with losing decently matched games. But this shit was over on Turn 3.
     
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  23. v1rus Arcane

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    All these fucking buttons, and no "consolation". Illustrates codex rather well, I guess.

    Oh well, screw it. Arena aint worth it anyway. One of main reasons i like HS is cause its chill. No rage, no tension, no anything. His Yogg just won him a lost game? No biggie, you lost 10 mins of your time, and you prolly had at least a bit of fun.

    Not in arena tho. Not in arena.

    EDIT - Now that I think about it, that's def not how it works. I played against the same player twice in a row more than a couple of times.
     
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  24. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Yeah that's why I'm fine with constructed. You pretty much know what you're going to face and I wouldn't be demoralized when a warrior has an opening hand like that.
     
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  25. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Yes, netdecks and yes, to the face.
    Where games are also often decided in the first turns on the back of some retarded flame juggler or later on whether the huntard can play call of the retard into call of the retard.
    Wow, so special.

    Also, you sound like Kripparian. Waah constructed in arena waah waah.
     
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