Is RPG Codex the only place on the Internet where Larian and Beamdog are hated?

When they came out with their pointless enhanced editions, they actually took the original versions off the market. Now I think you get the original game with the enhanced edition, but it was a shitty move nonetheless.

If you can't see why taking a beloved classic off the market and forcing someone who wants to play it to buy a worse version can upset people, I don't know what to tell you.

What's nostalgia baiting about Larian games? D:OS 1 and 2 have nothing in common with the old IE games and more than half the people who love the D:OS series have never even played Baldur's Gate. The media started pushing the "Baldur's Gate spiritual successor" narrative and Larian itself was surprised about that, but still went along with it because why wouldn't they?

 

EEs provide enhancements that aren't initially obvious and can't be fixed with mods such as superior pathfinding -- the pathfinding in the originals is atrocious. They're also much easier to create mods for.
The EEs should have been strictly improvements such as this by default, with an opt-in for their original content. Forcing their content onto you is the major issue. To be fair, this is largely what the PST and NWN EEs are, but they already burned a lot of goodwill by the time they got there. Also, NWN EE released with near zero changes at launch.

 

1) Beamdog didn't "remove the classics". Your physical copies are right there. You can use them right now. They just stopped selling the old games to new users, and that is understandable, no reason to keep selling legacy code to modern day users. Everyone who had already bought the game previously had the classic version, and he can still get cd copies online if he wishes....

2) NJClaw, don't take it personal, but you are probably a sperg. Have you been tested on the spectrum? Nostalgia is not about having 2 exact games. DOS is feeding the nostalgia of isometric RPG experiences. Like the rest of the kickstarter era indie trash. It is the "let's control our avatars with a mouse like an RTS" feel. It doesn't have to be DnD or realtime with pause to be nostalgia-bait. Only spergs focus so much on the minutie of gaming. Nostalgia does not come from the ruleset, nostalgia is about the feelings you had as a brainless child while playing 90s games, and you want to re-experience that feeling.

 

If you can't see why people would be upset about no longer being able to obtain the original version of the game, there's not much I can say to convince you. The enhanced edition had a worse UI, bad content that didn't fit in with the original game and wasn't compatible with preexisting mods. I still play the enhanced edition because the UI is still serviceable and I really don't care about mods (especially compared to the quality-of-life improvements that the EE introduces), but I can also empathize with people who prefer the original game. You know, like a non-autistic person would do.

I will try to get tested if you promise me you will try to improve your reading capabilities. Many vocal Baldur's Gate (and other isometric RPGs) fans despise Larian and the D:OS series. Many D:OS fans spend their time here on the Codex saying that the BG series is trash. A lot of D:OS fans have never even played Baldur's Gate (or other old isometric games): you can find innumerable "I loved D:OS, should I try BG?" threads everywhere on the internet. One of the first questions at the BG3 gameplay reveal literally ended with "wow, I loved D:OS, now I'm going to try the BG series". How can a game rely on BG nostalgia if people who play it have never touched a BG game?

Anyway, I'm doing an online test right now. Usually I'm a functional member of society, but I'm quite sure I'm pretty far on the spectrum. I know these tests aren't worth much, but I'll let you know the results as soon as possible.

 

Oh yes, a luck they become popular, if anything we can thank them . However it's impossible to replicate the same experience , people may end up disappointed they wont get anything close like that even after buying the book. If only they had started earlier with previous editions , it succes has nothing to do with 5E really, its lot of story telling and acting, maybe like one fight with minis on a map every 4 hours.Any rpg system could work .