JA2 Virgin

Yeah. I started a new game for good measure, too.

Of course.

 

That's fucking brutal .

 

Get inside the house and await on the inner bedroom? Magic has great interrupts.

 

I'm a stinky LARPer when it comes to exploits like hiding in houses and waiting for interrupts, so I just high-tailed it out of there (after picking up the ammo I ordered from Bobby's) and came back at night.

 

Hmmm. So 1.13 now has some kind of headphone and nightvision visuals in the portraits? I think JA 1 had something similar with extended ears too.

But, what's with the insane amount of AP's?

 

It's a revamped system to allow for some more options - the AP costs are adjusted of course so you can't burst three clips worth of ammo in one round.

 

Yeah. The nightvision portrait can and usually does look horrible though:

 

Oh my... This is horrible. Stupid LARPers. Keep putting useless LARPing stuff instead of fixing/balancing/externalizing.

 

... that can be disabled, right?

 

Yes it can, no fear.

Also, was someone complaining that the AI does not know how to use attached GL's? I just received a nasty surprise - Raven and Raider went to bits after the AI rolled in a HE through the doorway about 30 tiles away.

 

Man, my hero just got knifed to death

 

How'd you manage that? Tried to melee someone yourself?

Reading this and the other JA2 thread have really made me want to play it again (maybe even do daytime mostly, since I usually prefer night ops - SoupNazi's Drassen airport pic looks like fun), but I guess I can wait it out until this http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ub ... ber=267824 gets released.

 

I was being shot up from behind a wall in the dark by guys I couldn't see so I moved crouch moved him up next to it, at which point the enemy soldier hopped over and gutted me in interrupt. I've got some decent guns now, Colt Commando and Mini-14, but I still try to take care of business with my silenced MP5K as much as possible.

 

Daytime missions can be hilarious. Surprisingly, it opens a lot of tactical options as well because it's easier to lure enemies and employ diversion tactics. I wholly recommend sometimes trying it out, I usually play with silenced weapons and do night ops as well, but the occasional daytime mission where guns are blazing can be as intense, if not more.

Edit: The situation from screenshot above also tends to happen a lot :



Of course this time, I had all my mercs ready and armed up + Magic had some stun grenades, so...





(In case anyone was wondering, motherfucker Cliff ran out on me because I only renewed his contract once he reminded himself at 2h. He was fine with it several times before, so I fired that arrogant sonovabitch. Then I hired this new chick that I assume is from some expansion or some shit. Of course, the bitch got pissed when I renewed her 24 hour contract at 10 hours ... so I fired her too )

 

These few pictures sum up what a bad mod can do to a great game.

Many enemies against 3 soldiers with massive weapons... Not a scratch at the end... And all soldiers move in one big pack... Totally unrealistic, stupid.
This would never happen in JA2 vanilla. JA2 1.13 can be cut down to give better result, but the default mainstream is incredibly shit.

 

This usually happens in extreme situations (although I do tend to get in those a lot). The original Drassen picture happened because I lured them behind the houses. The second picture is the result of an enemy patrol actually following me from sector to sector and actually catching up to me when I decided to wait for them. The screenshots are literally from the moment they appeared in the sector. The only thing they could have done better was to fall back behind the trees instead of trying to push forward, but I've done that mistake many times before and I'm human. 1.13 has it's highlights and some downfalls but overall I like it better than vanilla.

For example, in this screenshot, I was being all smug about my clever merc placement (Magic and Cliff got enemy attention, threw a smoke grenade so they wouldn't get killed, while IMP merc flanked and sniped them from the side) without realizing that they were actually outflanking me themselves, nearly killing me in the end.


In vanilla JA2, when I tried it even after Codex linked me to 1.13, and also in the expansion, I don't remember ever getting outmaneuvered by the enemy. Outnumbered yes, but only with 1.13 can I see the enemy actually thinking about how to get me and not just sending everything there is my way.

 

Laura is a new IMP portrait or new MERC or AIM portrait?

 

New AIM merc.


(you guessed it, I like posting JA2 screens)

 

Nonsense. There is no way to code around the existing exploits - like hugging the sector border waiting for the enemy patrol to come in or barricading inside a building and waiting for the enemy to come in in single-file. At least in 1.13 the AI uses grenades and GLs much more than in vanilla and tries to actively outflank you. I don't remember those happening in vanilla much, if at all.

 

Lord God Leroy, that Laura girl's bio reads like it was written by a Chinese Engrish speaker. Is that actually taken from Wildfire or did some Finnish modder write it?

If the former, Wildfire is even more crap than I thought.

 

No, that's not an exploit. The cluster of enemies is due to the ini setting: MILITIA_REINFORCEMENT (true). This setting is a logical mistake in itself, since in JA 2 it takes you > 90 minutes to come into another sector after an attack alert. But the reinforcement comes within minutes (seconds). Moreover, it creates these sort of situations. AI soldiers come in a pack and they "think" and move in a same way. Now, don't try to tell me it is impossible to let them split in the code (to become less easy a target for grenades).

Honestly, wiith all users on Bear's pit forums crying for more realism - what they get in the end? A pack of 10 soldiers on 7 tiles radius being shot dead by 3 dudes without any casualties on day 5. Nobody's complaining about that being unrealistic. Is such a game charming the way JA2 was?

 

Did anyone even stop to consider maybe I'm just that good?











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Didn't think so

 

i installed the newest 1.13 few days ago and was actually wondering if there will be some point when they stop adding new shit and start working on things like sprites or ai.

 

Yep, that sepiroth-esque grimdark cunt is a new addition from Wildfire (including 4 other mercs IIRC), imo they really stand out in a bad way due to piss poor voiceovers. Flo has more personality than some ofthese guys :-/
And yeah, being a "doctor" with less than 60 medical...tell me all about that.

That's because someone else hired him in the meantime. If you wish to pull shit like that off, you have to hire them for two weeks at least once (by actuallly using the option, extending 2x week doesn't work) - this makes them not accept any other contracts.

 

SoupNazi: which version did you revert back into?