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Josh Sawyer is taking a break from directing games

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This thread is at the 8th page, and I still can't figure out why some people here think that Josh is looking for another job, or arguing about which company can he go to. He just said that the won't be a project director and will work on several other projects as a designer. That's it. Or have I missed a tweet or announcement?
 

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The main problem with scoring a management job is, that everyone wants to be the boss, and think they could do it better. So, the way to get it is to be good friends with the CEO.
 

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The main problem with scoring a management job is, that everyone wants to be the boss, and think they could do it better. So, the way to get it is to be good friends with the CEO.

And then they find out what it entails, being a manager and being butt buddies with the CEO.

In the past, you had project leads and engineers: the technical people who made it happen. They have been mostly replaced by managers, who need to manage, no technical knowledge required. Technical people should be cheap, or outsourced.

Two different groups, who talk about vastly different things among each other. And barely understand the other group. Which wouldn't be bad, as long as they respected each other.

There is little coordination happening.


Interestingly enough, if you look at Scrum and Agile, you see that those design stages have mostly disappeared: pick the next, small, short-term goal. Implement that. Repeat. Planning is only about how many FTE you need to finish the next part.

Cool for small stuff, not for serious projects.


Anyway, if you're good at the coordination and design, you first need to find a company where they see the need for those things. Which again requires that the CEO likes you. So, being hired as external consultant is often a requirement for that.

But in that case you can prove that you're actually good at what you do. Which is also a dangerous thing to do.


Getting to be buddies with the CEO is much easier.
 

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The main problem with scoring a management job is, that everyone wants to be the boss, and think they could do it better. So, the way to get it is to be good friends with the CEO.

And then they find out what it entails, being a manager and being butt buddies with the CEO.
It is truly amazing how the worst person gets chosen for the job. Why can't bosses have normal capable friends? I am yet to see a manager that is the good match for the job. It is one of humanity's mysteries.
 

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he probably heard feargus say "sounds like you don't wanna be a project director anymore" and took it at face value
 

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The main problem with scoring a management job is, that everyone wants to be the boss, and think they could do it better. So, the way to get it is to be good friends with the CEO.

And then they find out what it entails, being a manager and being butt buddies with the CEO.
It is truly amazing how the worst person gets chosen for the job. Why can't bosses have normal capable friends? I am yet to see a manager that is the good match for the job. It is one of humanity's mysteries.

One is good in sucking up and lying (politics), the other in analysis and technical stuff. Different kinds of people. Although they can both communicate well, they do so in a very different way. With different priorities: only one of them cares about the project.

EDIT: although it always surprises me that those bosses always seem to think it's genuine, while the other actually thinks: "what an ass". That's what you get if everyone is friendly and nobody ever tells them that they are wrong.
 
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Soon, for the first time ever, Josh Sawyer will be the Design Director of Obsidian Entertainment without being tied down to a project. He ain't going anywhere before he tries to leverage that.
I'm just going to add fuel to the fire here.

Since Josh was given royalties on the PoE IP, what if Feargus did what he did best and added a clause in the contract that required Josh to be at Obsidian to see any of that money? We all know how the boss man likes to lock down talent, and has a propensity for playing the "if I can't have you no one can" game. So maybe Josh would leave but won't yet at least until he sees some of that money. Sort of like a non-compete clause but with incentive this time, maybe because Josh is better at dealing with him than MCA. Enforced stagnation.


Another thing to those saying Josh has no talent: if MCA's work was disappointing and far from his full potential at Obsidian, it most likely is the same for Sawyer. This is a studio that has stifled creativity at every turn except for marginal DLCs / expansions (in the owners' eyes), and has made a habit of turning away many of its best creative talent.
 

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I'm going by Divinity OS 1 don't know much about the second one. I don't see why Larian would break something that didn't need fixing.
Because according to the casuals who bring the 1m+ sales, D:OS combat is teh hard.
 

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